Thought Is Not Fundamental

By Leo Gura - June 12, 2025

Thought is not fundamental enough to comprehend existence/reality. The entire domain of thought is 2^nd order. All thought is symbolic and semantic in structure. Symbols and semantics are not the basis of reality, they are a higher order phenomenon. Obviously reality existed long before symbols, semantics, and thought came into being. Obviously existence, Consciousness, being, Truth, reality is prior to symbolic thought. Consciousness can exist without thought, but thought cannot exist without Consciousness. Truth exists without thought, but through cannot exist without Truth. This demonstrates that Consciousness and Truth are more fundamental. Thought cannot reach down that low since thought is constructed out of them. This is an inescapable epistemic limit. But it is only a limit for thought. It does not apply to Consciousness or Mind. Consciousness can reach all the way down to the bottom because Consciousness is the base and Consciousness is unlimited. Consciousness is not symbolic. It follows from this that scientific method and rationality cannot ever grasp existence or ultimate reality because both require thought. What is scientific method without thought, without symbols? Science and rationality are 2^nd order symbolic constructs. Reality is too fundamental for science and rationality to grasp it. But science and rationality does not understand this.

This is analogous to how a light microscope cannot reach down to see individual atoms because light is too “big”, not fundamental enough. Thought is like light, it’s too big to grasp the substrate of which it is made. Thought cannot grasp its own substrate — which is Consciousness. But Consciousness can grasp Consciousness because it is its own substrate. Consciousness is one with itself. Consciousness can grasp itself because it is 1^st order. This is the technical reason why mysticism is required. Mysticism is an epistemic mode beyond symbolic thought. This is why no matter how much science and rationality tries, it can never do away with mysticism. For purely technical reasons these can never be a full understanding or accounting of reality without mysticism. This state of affairs requires science and rationality to be humble and deferential to mysticism. But science and rationality are too epistemically arrogant and metaphysically arrogant for that. Which, in a nutshell, is the folly and devilry of reason and science.

Science and reason must bow before God. But they refuse. This arrogance is what makes scientists stupid. Human reason is nowhere intelligent enough to comprehend reality. This is not a mystical rationalization, this is a basic technical fact which ought to be so obvious that I shouldn’t have to explain it.

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