Debating The Existence Of Evil

By Leo Gura - May 4, 2026

This is a good debate about the non-existence of evil.

I am impressed by DeMartini’s understanding of relativity. I’ve never seen a public figure with this deep a grasp of relativity besides myself. You can see Aubrey struggling to keep up. However, Aubrey also makes a valid point that it is possible to distinguish more and less corrupt people. Not everyone is equally corrupt. Corruption is a function of level of consciousness. Consciousness comes in infinite degrees. The higher the degree, the more “moral” the person behaves and vice versa. Morality is just consciousness.

What Aubrey wants to call evil, is sadism. Sadism is real. There are plenty of sadistic people in the world. Sadism is a function of low consciousness. But it is technically not evil or wrong. It just is what it is regardless of how you feel about it. Sadism is an aspect of God.

Here’s the core problem in Aubrey’s position: If you want to say sadism is evil, then you have to say that God is evil because God includes sadism. And as soon as you say God is evil, you’ve failed to comprehend God. God invented child abuse. So how is Aubrey going to square that in his mind? It’s going to create a division in his mind, which means he cannot realize Unity. Any division whatsoever in your mind will prevent you from realizing God. Aubrey is still reasoning in terms of survival. But survival does not apply to God. Truth cannot care about your feelings. That’s why Truth is so difficult for finite selves to grasp. Aubrey won’t really understand Unity until he dies. Truth is so radical that it cannot be accepted without death of everything finite. Death IS the acceptance of Truth. Until you’re dead you haven’t accepted it yet.

Note: Do not physically harm yourself.

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