Being high conscious and watching porn doesn’t go together

[StarStruck]

16 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Brilliant! It's all around us. Everywhere. No need to have sex to have sex. You're penetrating and birthing as we speak all the time through the mind. One penetrates the other and gives rise to new creative ideas, thoughts and insights which then manifests into our world as physical things. 

It is common knowledge in spirituality. Every major spirituality stream has a sexual component and for a reason. Please stop following Leo blindly and broaden your spiritual scope. For Leo spirituality and sexuality are two separate things which is a major gap in his spirituality. Spirituality without sex is like a car without an engine. 

[Hojo]

@Ry4n  You are an energy penis. You can make your entire energy penis blow its load. Thats the goal of spirituality. When you do it your spirit enters puberty and begins to change.

Edited March 3 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, StarStruck said:

Please stop following Leo blindly and broaden your spiritual scope.

I cannot listen to anything you say after reading this nor will I even say anything to you. The same instrument you're talking out of is the same you'll be listening from and that instrument is your ASS. 

[Razard86]

On 3/2/2024 at 1:10 AM, Creatorbeing said:

Starstruck

Limiting beliefs .

U know ur mind is conditioned by society to see sex as negative, it's not,sex is spiritual itself.

Sex is one of the highest spiritual practices of communion with self.

Shhh it will take some their entire life to figure this out. Sex is a direct practice to spiritual awakening. At an altered state of consciousness you can become conscious of no self and all is self awakening in one fell swoop. If the materialist paradigm was not so massively accepted sex alone would awaken majority of humanity. It's one of the greatest and most powerful forms of devotion. The wise Spiritual Practitioner can use porn and sex as a spiritual practice. The funny thing is some discover this COMPLETELY BY ACCIDENT. 

A forum user shared a trip report by a girl fooling around with sex and discovering this while high.

 

[StarStruck]

@Razard86 spirituality in porn 😂😂😂😂

[Arthogaan]

 

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

True, being high conscious and watching porn doesn’t go together.

Being high and watching porn, on the other hand...

[Javfly33]

36 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

True, being high conscious and watching porn doesn’t go together.

Being high and watching porn, on the other hand...

🤣

[StarStruck]

This forum is so called open minded but they don’t give sexual transmutation a chance because the sacrifice of the animal orgasm is too big for them. Talking about so called non attachment: most spiritually advanced forum my *** 😅.. This place is filled with certain type of people which I won’t call out because of power hungry mods. All what I can do is put out the message. Now I’m making 10-20k per month and fixed my health, wealth, relationships and spirituality. Health at its core = sexual health. If you are not holistic about sex you are just an idiot. Sex is not just for pleasure. I only make these threads because I feel like I have a duty to spread the word but I feel like it falls on deaf ears. Feeding pearls to pigs. Too bad. 

Edited March 5 by StarStruck

[Ry4n]

On 5/3/2024 at 2:17 AM, Bazooka Jesus said:

True, being high conscious and watching porn doesn’t go together.

Being high and watching porn, on the other hand...

Hahahaaa

Have fun! 🤪🤭

[Emerald]

@StarStruck I didn't watch the video, but I read through the thread. Here's my perspective...

When it comes to pornography, there is often some element of exploitation there because many people choose that path out of a sense of financial duress. So, it can be argued that it isn't truly consent for many of the people who are involved.

And of course, you can find very predatory dynamics in the industry in situations that are particularly shady.

This of course is not true across the board for everyone. Some people just really like sex and enjoy the exhibitionism of performing on camera. For these concerns, finding amateur porn from independent creators can be a means of finding more ethically sourced porn.

Now... more importantly for self-actualization and conscious development practices is to take a middle path perspective on things like sex and porn that is neither based in grasping nor aversion.

And often, when someone is VERY against porn.... there can be a polarization into aversion because too much meaning is being applied to sex and there is too much attachment to it.

So, I would venture to guess that your aversion to porn might extend beyond simply not wanting to engage with it because you don't enjoy its results and see it as unhealthy. The reason why I say this is because there are other less healthy common behaviors that you likely wouldn't have as strong of a reaction to.

And what that indicates to me is that you may have some hangups and shame about sex and sexual desire in general. And these would be very important to work through. 

There is nothing wrong with sex and sexual desire. And as long as porn is used in moderation, it's okay (for those who are capable of moderation). 

Like I don't put any prohibitions on myself when it comes to things like drugs, alcohol, or porn. But I'm sober probably 363+ days out of the year and I maybe watch porn like once every couple of months. I understand that I'm a woman, so it might be easier for me to use porn in moderation. 

But I can say, as someone who is capable of moderation with it, I am much more indifferent and detached from porn compared to someone who has a strong aversion to it. The existence of porn neither excites me nor disgusts me. I'm just not that big of a fan of it and I don't prefer it because my imagination is better.

And I sense that that's a much more effective strategy for orienting to the existence of porn in a conscious way. Too much aversion leads to just as much attachment as being obsessed with it. 

[StarStruck]

@Emerald I had a porn addiction and that caused a lot of suffering so that definitely had an influence on my views. If you can use it in moderation like with alcohol, I guess it is ok, but it is still unhealthy as explained in the video.

For me, porn is a no-go because it triggers my primal urges and I get all my primal satisfaction from dancing pixels on a screen and I don't have motivation to do real stuff in the real world. Since I stopped deluding my primal brain with porn, my brain understands I have to work to get stuff done. And I get real joy from real accomplishments. Because just pressing couple of clicks and getting a huge dopamine reward for free is just too disorientating for me. It totally messes up my risk-reward mechanism. I don't think I'm a special human being, this mechanism is present in all human beings.

As for the ethic side of things. Perhaps there is some ethical porn out there but it is a very minor part of the industry. This still majority of the industry is exploitation and taking advantage of traumatized people:

https://fightthenewdrug.org/youre-no-longer-human-study-performers-exploitation-in-porn/

Edited March 6 by StarStruck

[LordFall]

@StarStruck Are you still more productive due to nofap? About to give it a go, I hit a real slump in terms of motivation and productivity lately. Any more thoughts on the subject?