Leo, how much do looks influence a man's attractiveness

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Yali said:

He still has a higher body count than the majority of guys, including attractive guys.

@Leo Gura

So what?

[Yali]

@Leo Gura The point is that if you're willing to work for pussy, you'll get it more often than your average attractive guy. 

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[Yali]

@Leo Gura

Given the hundreds of hours you've poured into pickup, don't you think you have a higher bodycount than the average attractive guy on the street who knows nothing of pickup?

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[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Leo Gura

Given the hundreds of hours you've poured into pickup, don't you think you have a higher bodycount than the average attractive guy on the street who knows nothing of pickup?

I don't have sex often, because I got better things to do.

[r0ckyreed]

It’s not about body count. It’s about God Count.

[Yali]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

because I got better things to do.

Fucking is overrated, isn't it? Even if the girl is attractive, if you don't know her on a deep personal level, then it's shallow.

Making love is another manner though, but you'd have to actually know the girl to experience that. @Leo Gura

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[Consept]

53 minutes ago, Yali said:

Fucking is overrated, isn't it? Even if the girl is attractive, if you don't know her on a deep personal level, then it's shallow.

Making love is another manner though, but you'd have to actually know the girl to experience that. @Leo Gura

Fucking is overrated but true connection is probably underrated 

[Leo Gura]

Everything human is overrated.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Yali said:

@Leo Gura

Given the hundreds of hours you've poured into pickup, don't you think you have a higher bodycount than the average attractive guy on the street who knows nothing of pickup?

Given the hundreds of hours cherry pickers put into their work, you'd think a higher salary than the average worker. Duh. More work doesn't guarantee better benefits.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

It’s not about body count. It’s about God Count.

Don't get all woo woo when it comes to sex and this kind of stuff. Even God wants to have some fun too.

[Joel3102]

@Leo Gura Is he even that bad looking? He’s no Brad Pitt but he’s not terrible. Can’t imagine it being such a deal breaker considering his confidence, status and money.

 
That John Anthony guy said his lay count was only 50, which is actually very low for someone who’s devoted his life to getting laid. 

[Phil King]

12 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

John Anthony guy said his lay count was only 50, which is actually very low for someone who’s devoted his life to getting laid

John anthony is a hater and only says that because he's a competitor in the same niche. If someone goes to Owens bootcamp, they dont go to Johns. No way is Owens that low, unless he has ridiculously high standards, thats like 2 girls a year. Also JA focuses way too much on laycount and his number is inflated because he goes outside the USA and does not have very high standards. 

[Leo Gura]

31 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

That John Anthony guy said his lay count was only 50, which is actually very low for someone who’s devoted his life to getting laid. 

John Anthony is a bigger bullshitter than Owen.

Stop trusting what these pickup guys tell you. They are all profressional liars. They make tens of millions of dollars lying to men.

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[Soul_Guy]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I know people who know him.

And Owen constantly makes fun of his own looks. Why do you think he does that? Because he's compensating for it. He knows full well that his looks hurt him. The only ones who don't know it are those brianwashed with pickup theory.

Like I said, Owen is a worldclass bullshitter. That's what pickup is all about.

While I realize that Owen sometimes exaggerates things, I think he does this to reach people that are stuck in a deep hole of apathy, to help them jolt out of that state and take action.

Also, he doesn't claim that looks don't matter. I've definitely heard him say that looks matter, just not to the extent that people think they do. I've also heard him talk about how his looks do hurt him but he makes up for it with good "game" - because he can't win if he's playing in the same "lane" as the conventionally attractive guys, he creates his own lane and wins in that - that is the core of his "game". Isn't this very similar to what you are saying?

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, Soul_Guy said:

I've also heard him talk about how his looks do hurt him but he makes up for it with good "game" - because he can't win if he's playing in the same "lane" as the conventionally attractive guys, he creates his own lane and wins in that - that is the core of his "game". Isn't this very similar to what you are saying?

Yes. But people here like to act like Owen isn't saying that. Hence I said what I said.

[BlessedLion]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

John Anthony is a bigger bullshitter than Owen.

Stop trusting what these pickup guys tell you. They are all profressional liars. They make tens of millions of dollars lying to men.

Yeah they are conmen and scam artists. 
 

james marshall

owen cook

julien 

 

absolute scum and fuckers, the worst part is they bring spirituality into it and even pretend to teach enlightenment 

[Zen LaCroix]

I remember years ago in a video Owen said "the women don't even realize they're attracted to me until we're having sex"

[Leo Gura]

57 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

absolute scum and fuckers

Chill

[meta_male]

2 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

absolute scum and fuckers, the worst part is they bring spirituality into it and even pretend to teach enlightenment 

They will get what they deserve eventually.

[Vibes]

5 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

Yeah they are conmen and scam artists. 
 

james marshall

owen cook

julien 

 

absolute scum and fuckers, the worst part is they bring spirituality into it and even pretend to teach enlightenment 

I don't know much about their past but Julien seems to have changed and I find good things in his new teachings.