Leo, how much do looks influence a man's attractiveness

[Gnosis]

5 hours ago, Yousif said:

You all keep getting stuck and emotional about the content, while I’m trying to explain the structure of the situation of genetics and how it can limit you and there’s basically nothing you can do about it.

No, what you're doing is parroting Leo.

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, you do.

I'm ironically in agreement with this.

6 hours ago, ZenAlex said:

You cannot chase truth if you're so mentally disabled you don't even know what is going on in the room around you.

It's much worse than that, to seriously chase truth you have to be deeply interested in chasing truth in the first place, this already narrows down the population substantially.

It's even more ironic because in the end, truth doesn't require you to do anything (literally and by definition).

[Gnosis]

You can't just enforce an interest of truth on someone. Muslims are told to pray five times, but regardless of this only a fraction of them are seriously interested in truth. Generally speaking, for religious people truth = whatever your religion says. This simply isn't the same for someone who's deeply interested in truth.

[Gnosis]

A seriously asexual person will never chase sex in the way an allosexual person with high libido does.

[Buck Edwards]

42 minutes ago, Gnosis said:

I'm ironically in agreement with this.

Can you explain me how? 

[Gnosis]

12 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Can you explain me how?

Everything I said after that.

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Gnosis said:

Everything I said after that.

How is that related to genetics? 

[BlessedLion]

12 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I can tell the guys who are actually hooking up with women. They're not on here asking how to dress, and where to move to, and if girls like tall or short guys or how to be attractive to women. They're just out there the old fashion way and getting their foot wet and just doing it. 

Yes Goddess! That’s the key

[BlessedLion]

1 hour ago, Timur said:

It is a very interesting discussion and sensible topic. 

People do usually not like to talk about genetic advantages. The majority of people would rather live in denial rather than accepting that a tiny fraction of humans have won the genetic lottery and are highly privileged in that regard.

I would like to give you two of my personal experiences with genetic advantages and disadvantages.

During my last three years of high school I had a very disciplined lifting phase. I lifted four to six times per week, had the right diet with a caloric surplus and gave my best. After three years I looked better than the average person who does some sports in his life. But guess what, there were some guys who looked better than me after one year of lifting. I never understood why, till I came to the conclusion that it had nothing to do with my diet not being good enough or my training not being hard enough. It was simply my genetic disadvantage in building muscle.

After finishing high school I started my studies in chemical engineering in one of the best universities in Germany. In the first semester there were almost a thousand college students sitting in the lecture hall and listening to the advanced maths I course. Guess what, in the second semester over the half was gone, even though a lot of them studied non-stop. To be honest I studied less than half than the average college student and I still got my Masters of Science in eleven semesters and got straight B‘s, while gaining 1,5 years of internship experience. Did I achieve these results because of my time management skills and productivity. Yes, that was sure an important parameter to success in my university days. But ultimately it came down to one thing…Genetic advantage.

 

 

Love your name!  

[Gnosis]

1 minute ago, Buck Edwards said:

How is that related to genetics?

I personally don't like equating this with "genetics" per se, it's too narrow and oddly specific of a definition. But the issue not being one narrowly of "genetics" per se does not imply that the argument of "you work with what you got" isn't a strong one.

[Gnosis]

Truth is like sexuality except one can hardly find an allosexual person when it comes to truth.

[Gnosis]

20 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

How is that related to genetics?

On the other hand I think the inability to chase truth as a fruit fly is self-evident, so that wasn't what I was arguing with respects to.

[Gnosis]

Unless one wants to take the metaphysical position that literally everything is "chasing truth".

[Gnosis]

Which ironically, I would not consider an incorrect position either.

[Gnosis]

It's merely not the narrow, higher cognitive definition of a pursuit of "truth", but also technically does not invalidate the genetic absolutism stance as long as the argument is formulated as one of efficacy, rather than a binary "able to" or "unable to".

[xbcc]

My Fax machine tells me:

1. Fame/Status
2. Game. The best form of game is pre-selection. Put hot females into friendzone, make them love you because of your energy and personality and go into public surrounded by them. Always keep a masculine frame while doing it and have the basics of game down. If you are super insecure, do cold approaches and learn how your behaviour affects your attractiveness.
3. Lifestyle: be social and be in situations where girl can actually see you instead of sitting at home 24/7 lol.
4. Looks
5. Money

Facts.

For most pre-selection game is the most effective and maybe the least effort.

But ofcourse maximize your looks and confidence, go to the gym, get a beard and haircut that improves your face shape. Groom yourself.

But do not get the Lithuanian Leg Lift (LLL)!

Edited February 29 by xbcc

[petar8p]

On 2/27/2024 at 4:45 PM, Leo Gura said:

Your discipline is a very limited thing relative to your genes.

Very true. It's a devli's trickery trying to make distinction between genes and will-power, discipline, perseverence..  

 

Like WHAT MAKES YOU think your ability to push long hours into something isn't genetically determined as well as much as a lot of the other factors people like to mention..

 

It just seems like the thing closer to the free will, but is not really.. 

 

People need to understand this.

Not everyone can naturally hustle like GaryVee or Lebron James.  This guys hit a mental toughness jackpot + environmental factors + tons of other beneficial factors for their craft.  

 

Realize what you're made for and pushing to capitalize your life on that thing, realizing the potential gains and meaning it adds to your life is the best fucking thing we can individually do for ourself..   

 

[The0Self]

4 hours ago, petar8p said:

Not everyone can naturally hustle like GaryVee or Lebron James.  This guys hit a mental toughness jackpot + environmental factors + tons of other beneficial factors for their craft.  

 

Lebron James hit an insane genetic jackpot considering he was raised by a single mother yet managed to be a billionaire and sports ultra-superstar. Or maybe it was something else, but it was a jackpot alright, even if it came from within.

[Soul_Guy]

On 2/26/2024 at 5:27 AM, Leo Gura said:

Owen does not get many girls. He struggles to get them. Because of his looks.

But how do you know this though? Unless you know him personally, it seems like you're just guessing.

Edited March 11 by Soul_Guy

[Leo Gura]

16 hours ago, Soul_Guy said:

But how do you know this though? Unless you know him personally, it seems like you're just guessing.

I know people who know him.

And Owen constantly makes fun of his own looks. Why do you think he does that? Because he's compensating for it. He knows full well that his looks hurt him. The only ones who don't know it are those brianwashed with pickup theory.

Like I said, Owen is a worldclass bullshitter. That's what pickup is all about.

Edited March 11 by Leo Gura

[Yali]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

And Owen constantly makes fun of his own looks.

He still has a higher body count than the majority of guys, including attractive guys.

Why? Because most guys don't work for pussy as hard as him.

@Leo Gura

Edited March 11 by Yali