Redosing 5-MeO-DMT: Safe Limits?

[shree]

I prefer vaping as the method for using 5-MeO-DMT, but the experience is quite brief, lasting only a few minutes.

 

Currently, my dosage is around 20mg.

Is it safe to redose three or four times consecutively?

[OBEler]

Yes, Martin Ball did always 3 rounds.But I remember the second and third dose was less.

[Leo Gura]

You could re-dose it 20 times in a row.

But be careful. Monitor yourself for headaches or other health issues and discontinue use if you start feeling unwell.

And also, be ware, that much 5-MeO-DMT will put you dangerously out of touch with material life.

Edited February 21 by Leo Gura

[Arthogaan]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Monitor yourself for headaches or other health issues and discontinue use if you start feeling unwell.

You mentioned permanent damage done to your system via 5-meo. Could you describe the symptoms? Are they still pertaining?

[shree]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You could re-dose it 20 times in a row.

But be careful. Monitor yourself for headaches or other health issues and discontinue use if you start feeling unwell.

And also, be ware, that much 5-MeO-DMT will put you dangerously out of touch with material life.

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 

 

Thanks, I will keep it in mind.

 

I noticed some bruises on my leg in the period when I was plugging very high doses of 5MeO-MALT.

Have you ever had something like this?

Edited February 21 by shree

[Girzo]

3 hours ago, shree said:

I noticed some bruises on my leg in the period when I was plugging very high doses of 5MeO-MALT.

Sounds very plausible. Bruising is a known rare side-effect of antidepressants that act on serotonin, might be a much more common side-effect of psychedelics.

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, shree said:

I noticed some bruises on my leg in the period when I was plugging very high doses of 5MeO-MALT.

Yes. You have to be very careful about that. High doses can make the body very bruisable, even from light pressure, like sitting funny in a chair. And it could even turn to internal hemoraging. So if you see bruising then dial it back and be more careful where you put pressure on your body.

Edited February 21 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

If I vape, I like to dose 2-3 times. I need to settle in. First vape is usually slow, and low. 

Edited February 22 by Thought Art

[shree]

On 21/02/2024 at 2:33 PM, OBEler said:

Yes, Martin Ball did always 3 rounds.But I remember the second and third dose was less.

 

On 21/02/2024 at 9:52 PM, Girzo said:

Sounds very plausible. Bruising is a known rare side-effect of antidepressants that act on serotonin, might be a much more common side-effect of psychedelics.

 

On 21/02/2024 at 10:45 PM, Leo Gura said:

Yes. You have to be very careful about that. High doses can make the body very bruisable, even from light pressure, like sitting funny in a chair. And it could even turn to internal hemoraging. So if you see bruising then dial it back and be more careful where you put pressure on your body.

 

On 22/02/2024 at 0:06 PM, Thought Art said:

If I vape, I like to dose 2-3 times. I need to settle in. First vape is usually slow, and low. 

Thank you all so much for the wealth of information!  Your guidance has been invaluable. 

[RamPhoenix]

On 2/21/2024 at 6:14 AM, Leo Gura said:

You could re-dose it 20 times in a row.

But be careful. Monitor yourself for headaches or other health issues and discontinue use if you start feeling unwell.

And also, be ware, that much 5-MeO-DMT will put you dangerously out of touch with material life.

....could you elaborate what you mean by "out of touch with material life"?

[RamPhoenix]

I usually do 2 rounds, 2nd round a higher dose.

I am starting to notice if I have a very good 2nd journey, my 3rd is lackluster....like my brain "blew its load".

 

[Yimpa]

6 minutes ago, RamPhoenix said:

....could you elaborate what you mean by "out of touch with material life"?

Imagine if you realized that you and your mother are Consciousness itself. Not in a cute hippie way kind of way, but actually!

And, yet, this is only the tip of the tongue.

 

[Davino]

27 minutes ago, RamPhoenix said:

....could you elaborate what you mean by "out of touch with material life"?

Imagine you realize your daughter is just a dream, exactly like the dream you had last night

Yeah, be careful with deep Awakening if that can compromise your personal life. Usually you become happier and more conscious in your everyday existence, more satisfied. But there are some shadows on tripping very deep, as any serious psychonauts knows, there is a real impact in your life. Most users will no go that far anyway, but  you don't know till it happens and maybe it does calls you. Striking a balance and being in touch with "material life" or "survival" is of the most importance if you plan to seriously trip and have a succesfull life.

Edited March 31 by Davino

[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, RamPhoenix said:

....could you elaborate what you mean by "out of touch with material life"?

You might get the idea to jump out the window to reunite with God. Or any number of crazy ideas harmful to life.

[TheGod]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You might get the idea to jump out the window to reunite with God. Or any number of crazy ideas harmful to life.

Have you ever had any crazy ideas? 

[Davino]

35 minutes ago, TheGod said:

Have you ever had any crazy ideas? 

Yes

[Thought Art]

It’s possible to do weird things 

[maxpechura]

I was smoking the converted 5-meo-malt today. Each toke would mean around a 5-10 minute trip. As I felt the trip started to subside, I would take another toke.

must have taken 10-15 hits from the vape during my sesh. Hard to say now.

i don’t go terribly deep. I will go deeper next time.

however, I was shown what things I have been doing wrong lately 

great way to reset

Edited April 2 by maxpechura

[LSD-Rumi]

On 4/1/2024 at 3:59 AM, TheGod said:

Have you ever had any crazy ideas? 

You didn't see the 9mm, did you? 

[OBEler]

4 hours ago, maxpechura said:

I was smoking the converted 5-meo-malt today. Each toke would mean around a 5-10 minute trip. As I felt the trip started to subside, I would take another toke.

must have taken 10-15 hits from the vape during my sesh. Hard to say now.

i don’t go terribly deep. I will go deeper next time.

however, I was shown what things I have been doing wrong lately 

great way to reset

Thanks for the report! So it's like plugging just very fast and short?is it as smooth as plugging or more harsh