What Is A Thought?

[Reciprocality]

38 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yeah, everything that is defined or communicated are thoughts.

@Breakingthewall Of course not, if there is not medium for the communication of the thought then there is no communication of that thought, and if there is a medium then this must itself be communicated for the thought to be communicated, therefore everything that is communicated is not a thought.

The typical medium to introduce here would be sense impression.

 

As a reminder: very little of anything is ever an "everything".

Edited February 20 by Reciprocality

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

What if you stop labelling a thought as a thought? What remains?

(Spoiler alert: Whatever answer comes up is just another thought. Simply observe it like you would observe a fly that's passing by and see what happens.)

[Reciprocality]

6 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

What if you stop labelling a thought as a thought? What remains?

(Spoiler alert: Whatever answer comes up is just another thought. Simply observe it like you would observe a fly that's passing by and see what happens.)

@Bazooka Jesus the thought has little to do with the label, their relationship is what we call accidental, so your conclusion is correct, a thought remains, but it is not as you said "another thought" instead it is the same thought in a new moment.

Edited February 20 by Reciprocality

[Breakingthewall]

47 minutes ago, Reciprocality said:

@Breakingthewall Of course not, if there is not medium for the communication of the thought then there is no communication of that thought, and if there is a medium then this must itself be communicated for the thought to be communicated, therefore everything that is communicated is not a thought.

The typical medium to introduce here would be sense impression.

 

As a reminder: very little of anything is ever an "everything".

I meant that everything that is communicated by words is a though. A thought is a mental representation of reality, it may be verbal or not, but when you verbalize something, it's because you are thinking it . True that you also can communicate things that are not thoughts, such as anger, happiness with attitudes, but I'd say that words are thoughts 

[Reciprocality]

@Breakingthewall

28 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I meant that everything that is communicated by words is a though. A thought is a mental representation of reality, it may be verbal or not, but when you verbalize something, it's because you are thinking it . True that you also can communicate things that are not thoughts, such as anger, happiness with attitudes, but I'd say that words are thoughts 

For sure that clears it up, and I agree that all that is communicated by words are thoughts (at least so far as the purpose for the word is concerned), and even as you said that words themselves can be thoughts, and also that anger is not a thought. 

I would stress though that even verbal thoughts with mere semantic content requires a medium of communication that is itself communicated, such as I now communicate to you through your sensitivity to the contrast between colours, which when I put it that way becomes a bit trippy.

Edited February 20 by Reciprocality

[Hojo]

From what Ive heard of Sadguru its your organs talking to you.

[Ishanga]

Thoughts are recycled information that your 5 senses have brought in and Your intellect has put together to form some sort of coherent pattern or stream of images and ideas going on in your mind..Your Thoughts will strongly be influenced by what You are identified with, intellect revolves around identity. Memory of course is needed here, if You had no ability to remember, you wouldn't have thoughts, so all of this is making up stories in your head  mostly compulsively, unless Your very Aware and have some space created btwn what is You and what is not You...

[Razard86]

22 hours ago, ivankiss said:

Short answer? 

Consciousness.

There is no thought. No thinking.

Only consciousness.

No feeling or perceiving, either. 

Just consciousness.

 

But this is not satisfactory enough, for some reason.

Why does it seem like there is a thought, when there isn't? Why does it seem as if someone is thinking, when no one is?

What is consciousness up to?

Instead of giving further explanations, I would invite you to, if you have the luxary of being able to drop all thinking for 3 - 5 or more seconds... do that, and watch closely the first thought coming into being. What is it, actually? Where does it come from and where does it go? Really zoom in on it - if you will. Pay close attention. Feel the thought.

Come back and let me know what you discovered.

A thought is all of your writing. But according to you it doesn't exist, so as that is such....there is nothing to come back to and discover because...it isn't there according to you.