STANs and para socialization is a HUGE problem.

[Danioover9000]

   Great example of this issue, and I actually felt some empathy and sorry for Benzino, pretty understandable when 15 plus years you're dealing with Eminem STANs harassing you:

   As GradeAunderA talked about in his YouTube drama video, the fanbase is the biggest issue in escalating conflicts to extreme heights. Screw the STANs!

[Danioover9000]

   Excellent react and coverage of this particular react, it's got multiple layers of hypocrisy, and plenty of lessons to glean for developmental psychology and maturity:

   Don't be like Knox Hill and pander and pamper too much. If you a rapper, or any artist, chief mission in life is AUTHENTICITY! HONESTY! INTEGRITY! ASSERTIVENESS! OPEN MINDEDNESS! AND THE FREEDOM TO LISTEN AND SPEAK CLEARLY! That's why I started my journal stage red raps because I am afraid I'll be even more caged in and burdened by too many rules!

   But of course, context awareness and context sensitivity important, don't go n bombing outside of context and watch that undertone. Worth self observing and even studying body language and tonality which is why I can immediately sense Knox's insecurities, defensiveness and distress here a bit towards Ryan Upchurch, but when No Life Shaq says the n word Knox is performatively happy about it! Hypocrisy is so beautiful...

[Danioover9000]

@DefinitelyNotARobot

On 2024-02-18 at 10:15 PM, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

Do you think that you might have some parasocial tendencies? I'm not trying to be rude, but you seem to be highly invested in online creators. I've seen you extensively share videos and opinions ranging from Destiny to Mr. Girl and a bunch of other creators, plus you seem to have a lot of opinions on their personalities and what they're doing right/wrong. It seems that you have quiet a fascination with online creators, but that's just my observation so maybe I'm wrong, idk. Take it as some food for thought.

   Those are case studies for my recent body language analysis thread here:

   Of course I have my own biases with Destiny, Mr. Girl, and a few others mentioned in the past. I wouldn't label myself a STAN for any one then and now, now I'm dissecting their communication for myself, and those interested here.

[Buck Edwards]

Beehive and Selena stans, most toxic, most brutal. Even swift. 

[Danioover9000]

@Buck Edwards

Just now, Buck Edwards said:

Beehive and Selena stans, most toxic, most brutal. Even swift. 

   Arguably Eminem STANs, and even the barbs the Nicki Minaj STANs. Did you know her STANs doxxed Megan Thee Stallion's dead mom's grave and threatened to desecrate it? All for a rap beef between them, that Nicki started, that Nicki bullied Megan for 3 plus years, that Megan finally stood her ground with Hiss.

[Buck Edwards]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Buck Edwards

   Arguably Eminem STANs, and even the barbs the Nicki Minaj STANs. Did you know her STANs doxxed Megan Thee Stallion's dead mom's grave and threatened to desecrate it? All for a rap beef between them, that Nicki started, that Nicki bullied Megan for 3 plus years, that Megan finally stood her ground with Hiss.

This is just getting out of control. People need to just cancel these things. It's vulgar enough to the point I cannot bear to read it and it disgusts me. I hope this culture dies out and people learn better. 

 

[Danioover9000]

@Buck Edwards

12 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

This is just getting out of control. People need to just cancel these things. It's vulgar enough to the point I cannot bear to read it and it disgusts me. I hope this culture dies out and people learn better. 

 

   We basically need a government for the internet at this point. Fuck freedom of speech if this free speech/hate speech dichotomy isn't corrected ASAP!

   But don't censor my stage red journal plz... 

[Basman]

Anonymity is both a gift and a curse. It allows people to be candid and engage with niche interests but it also turns people into assholes. The distance and lack of reciprocity takes away a lot of humanity that normally comes from social interactions. There are rarely if ever any consequences for being a terrible person to others online. If you get caught for making up rape allegations of a person on the internet, just delete your profile. Smearing people is a legit strategy for engagement and money.

The silent majority becomes invisible due to the nature of how online discourse only shows the people who bother to engage while simultaneously promoting what is emotionally engaging which leads to often extreme points of view setting the tone of online discourse, depending on how the platform aggregates content. Twitter is very toxic due to how it is designed as opposed to the Actualized forum in contrast. If the Actualized forum had a upvote/downvote system it be a race to the bottom. 4chan is unironically better for discussion than Reddit because of it simplicity (if you can get past the slurs and edginess).

Putting yourself out there on the internet isn't for the faint of heart.

[Danioover9000]

    It's both funny and ironic a reactor covers Eminem's The Ringer and feels like he's talking about her specifically. Yes and no, yes he's talking about you as a reactor, as an online leech and parasite that is codependent onto content creators, creators in life, and leaders, and artists that're mostly independent financially, yet reactors and reactionaries depend on clout chasing and drama stirring to stay relevant and chase fads/trends to almost immoral ends.

 

[Danioover9000]

@Basman

16 hours ago, Basman said:

Anonymity is both a gift and a curse. It allows people to be candid and engage with niche interests but it also turns people into assholes. The distance and lack of reciprocity takes away a lot of humanity that normally comes from social interactions. There are rarely if ever any consequences for being a terrible person to others online. If you get caught for making up rape allegations of a person on the internet, just delete your profile. Smearing people is a legit strategy for engagement and money.

The silent majority becomes invisible due to the nature of how online discourse only shows the people who bother to engage while simultaneously promoting what is emotionally engaging which leads to often extreme points of view setting the tone of online discourse, depending on how the platform aggregates content. Twitter is very toxic due to how it is designed as opposed to the Actualized forum in contrast. If the Actualized forum had a upvote/downvote system it be a race to the bottom. 4chan is unironically better for discussion than Reddit because of it simplicity (if you can get past the slurs and edginess).

Putting yourself out there on the internet isn't for the faint of heart.

   I agree that the internet is mostly saturated with haters/critics/trolls nowadays.

   I also agree anonymity is both a gift and curse, but also social media sites are like Twitch,  Twitter and Tik Tok, which have increases ADD/ADHD, increased psychopathy/sociopathy like thinking and behavior, narcissism and neurosis due to profile pictures being autocorrected and made more pretty by A.I/algorithms, thanks to Tik Tok they engineered a deeper need and chasing of shorter content like clips, which pressured in capitalism with YouTube to adjust and make their own versions, shorts and reels, to keep up with competition even if mid to long format videos may take a negative hit and due to shorts this indoctrinates chasing again shorter span videos. Also now more than ever propaganda and misinformation is much easier to spread, and misbehaviors and demonization such as clout chasing and drama stirring, in bad faith tactics and bad faith agendas are rewarded more by the A.I and algorithms suggest them far more, and most get more views, click rates and likes of shorts and more shocking and sensational content at the expense of human decency going down.

[Basman]

@Danioover9000

I don't blame people as much as the incentives baked into the design of social media. On a fundamental level, the internet thrives of a certain level of disconnect from reality. Short-form content, drama, toxicity and ideological rabbit holes are all the result of the fact that we live in an attention based economy where what is most emotionally engaging is what becomes successful. You literally make more money by having an extreme perspective rather than a mild one. So it is kind of a race to the bottom.

AI will likely be very problematic for the future reliability of online information, but you already have to be very critical to be fair.

Kids should be barred from social media for the most part. I think that it is important that young people are taught to be media literate and critical of the information they take in, something which I find many parents simply neglect all together. They just give their kids an Ipad and call it a day.

[Danioover9000]

   Great example of this problem, and reactors being fake and lying too much:

 

[Danioover9000]

Hmmm...this is very interesting, because I'm a fan of Denzel Curry, especially his Clout Cobain song has deep themes for me. Main problem is there's this reactor called Knox Hill, who's an Eminem STAN, a breakdown react channel, react channel, who also is a rapper although to my ears he sucks musically, too dependent on auto tunes. But he choose to interject into this beef between Eminem and Benzino, diss tracks like Doomsday part 2 by Eminem towards Benzino and his daughter, and Benzino replied with Vulturius first, followed by Rap Elvis IMO best diss track of the year. Then Crypt started rumors about Benzino using ghost writers, and Cliff Beats, again both these reactors are STANs, Cliff Beats heavily pushed this narrative and was a bit slanderous so Benzino copyright claimed him, then issued a strike following that, and when Knox Hill heard this he dropped a diss track on Benzino Called Clout Cobain.

When Knox Hill specifically dropped Clout Cobain I immediately had issues because I KNOW that Denzel Curry titled that song like that even though it's like this 'CLOUT CO13AIN', Knox Hill NEVER gave credit and attribute, never even mentioned Denzel Curry's Clout Cobain in a pinned comment, crediting the original artist and Channel, not on his description box or even in the video referencing Denzel Curry. IMO it's disgusting that a reactor can do this and not bother to give credit where it's due, so good job on RedTop for spreading awareness! This is a great example that GradeAUnderA in his YouTube video about drama said: There are bad drama, but there are also good and different types of drama. It's really bad to say all drama is bad when there's some good drama to raise awareness.