Why does awakening resonate with some and not others?

[NineHfanbase]

When I first heard eckhart tolle talking about enlightenment, my entire life was turned upside down. whatever I thought was the most important thing in the world, had absolutely zero importance in a split second. All the confusion in my life was suddenly made sense of by this man that I’ve never seen before. Then I became obsessed with figuring this whole thing out.

But when I show that exact same clip to others, I’ve had several responses: 1. They ignore it and change the subject 2. They want to punch him in the face 3. They make fun of him, and it’s very clear nothing he is saying resonates with them in the slightest 4. They acknowledge that it is good advice, but it’s clear it had no significant impact on their views about life.

This really intrigues me. How could people have such different reactions to the same thing? Clearly it’s ego defense mechanisms, but how can the absolute truth of who you are not resonate with you in the slightest???

[Atb210201]

@NineHfanbase Amen my friend it's just different wants and desires that people have for themselves that make their priority list in life some people are just not interested in spirituality they want other things and have other goals in their life which is more important to them

I mean I do not know the people you've shown these videos to; I'm just guessing they too are the same

May you yourself continue to flourish and grow my friend thanks for reading my words🙏🏼❤️

Edited February 14, 2024 by Atb210201

[NineHfanbase]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

@NineHfanbase Amen my friend it's just different wants and desires that people have for themselves that make their priority list in life some people are not just interested in spirituality they want other things and have other goals in their life which is more important to them

I mean I do not know the people you've shown these videos to; I'm just guessing they too are the same

May you yourself continue to flourish and grow my friend thanks for reading my words🙏🏼❤️

But Enlightenment is not an interest or a hobby, it is the essence of what you are. Why do some people see this and others don’t even acknowledge it? 

[Atb210201]

1 minute ago, NineHfanbase said:

But Enlightenment is not an interest or a hobby, it is the essence of what you are. Why do some people see this and others don’t even acknowledge it? 

The earthly wants and desires my friend are in the way

You have to want something beyond the physical world in the first place to be interested in these subjects

Edited February 14, 2024 by Atb210201

[CoolDreamThanks]

It's because of previous lives. If you had theological instruction before and was a dedicated student and perhaps had enlightenment experiences, it resonates. If not, then not. 

[Ishanga]

Some are not ready for it, give the normal avg person 100 million $$ and they will be broke in 5yrs, they can't handle it on all levels of their being, same with Spirituality.  I like to use the analogy of Young Souls and Old Souls, the Old Souls are ready for it, the Young ones are not.. Probably has allot to do with their Karmic Makeup!!

[Jodistrict]

Most people are traumatized and disconnected from themselves and keep away from their pain with entertainment and endless distractions.   They don’t even have the awareness of how lost they are.  But, they can still have a life crisis which puts them in a space where they begin the search.

Another factor is delivery.   People who dismiss Tolle may relate better to one of the God religions, like Christianity.   The masses seem to relate better to Bakti Yogi than to Jhana Yoga. 

[Hojo]

Cause God is keeping them asleep. You are cut off from awakening until God wakes you up. Or you brute force it by not being scared 

Edited February 15, 2024 by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

Genetics basically.

A chimpanzee doesn't care about enlightenment either.

Edited February 15, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Soul Flight]

@NineHfanbase You kinda answered your own question by using the words "awakening" and "resonate." Everyone sleeps and wakes up on their own schedule including me and you. You can't wake someone up. Gurus use Zen koans to enlighten people because it is impossible to wake someone up. It is the ineffable. And the word "resonate" implies you must strike the proper tuning fork to get someone to resonate. So focus on yourself and let the universe awaken people when they are ready.

But there is also a giant spiritual-industrial-complex or "sleep-slumber-industrial-complex." People subconsciously know about "awakening" but put all their energy into avoiding the topic and staying asleep. And everyone walks around with an unspoken agreement that they won't acknowledge enlightenment if you promise not to acknowledge enlightenment. The ego is in control. The ego will not let people admit they are wasting their life in pursuit of shelter, food, and creature comforts. People walk around saying "I'll pretend you are who you are if you pretend I am who I am."

And if you are persistent and keep trying to wake someone up, they will seethe with rage and possibly murder you. No one is hated more than he who speaks the truth.

[Yimpa]

Most people are out here figuring out how to survive in the most maximum ways. They ain’t even interested in experiencing what ego death is, only as an entertaining idea at best.

[puporing]

It's related to the evolution of your "soul".. 

or you could be already a light being that came here specifically to help out.

^that seems to be how I came here.. I realized some time later it was revealed to me that I came here specifically to be of assistance (rather than to "enjoy this character" for instance).

Edited February 15, 2024 by puporing

[UnbornTao]

You mean the desire to know what's true, and I'm not sure. 

Edited February 15, 2024 by UnbornTao

[James123]

11 hours ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

It's because of previous lives. If you had theological instruction before and was a dedicated student and perhaps had enlightenment experiences, it resonates. If not, then not. 

How do you know, there is previous life's? These are all thoughts, nothin never happened.

[Yimpa]

12 hours ago, NineHfanbase said:

How could people have such different reactions to the same thing?

Much like how peanuts can be really nutritious and healthy for one person, yet be fatal to another. Same peanut, vastly different response. 

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

What are genes/genetics exactly?

That which makes you not a chimpanzee.

[Leo Gura]

@DefinitelyNotARobot It is a deep mystery why you are not a chimpanzee. I don't have an answer. If you ever find out, let us know.

Edited February 15, 2024 by Leo Gura

[NineHfanbase]

7 hours ago, puporing said:

It's related to the evolution of your "soul".. 

or you could be already a light being that came here specifically to help out.

^that seems to be how I came here.. I realized some time later it was revealed to me that I came here specifically to be of assistance (rather than to "enjoy this character" for instance).

This hits home. It seems every life situation I’ve been in, it becomes more clear I just don’t belong. But It doesn’t feel right being alone. Ironically my presence definitely has a significant positive impact on people, but they don’t notice me at all. I get bumped into a lot. People walk right into me. Recently I’ve been content with being around others but not socialising as much. It just feels right.

[ZenAlex]

You could experience awakening but still go on to live a poor quality of life.

Leo has had awakening experiences probably more than most here, but he talked at one point about being suicidal due to a gut issue.

Awakening does not equal the rest of your life being of good quality.

Most people who have good lives are not awake.

The thing that really matters is enjoying life which you can do whether you've had enlightenment experiences or not.

[NineHfanbase]

2 hours ago, ZenAlex said:

You could experience awakening but still go on to live a poor quality of life.

Leo has had awakening experiences probably more than most here, but he talked at one point about being suicidal due to a gut issue.

Awakening does not equal the rest of your life being of good quality.

Most people who have good lives are not awake.

The thing that really matters is enjoying life which you can do whether you've had enlightenment experiences or not.

I agree. I had this realisation on mushrooms. I felt stuck in many aspects of my life, and the insight I received was that as long as there is joy (not an ego high but TRUE joy) then you’re on the right track