Posted February 10 If you really know answer of this question, "you" dropped and therefore enlightened. "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 (edited) from my experience and made up story about what happened, you enter a void of no thing with no self reflection and just explode feelings, until you wear out all your feelings then you become a void of no thing then you can reincarnate. The feelings shedding can take as long as it takes cause there is no time. 2 days 3 months 100 years. Edited February 10 by Hojo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, Hojo said: from my experience and make up story about what happened you enter a void of no thing with no self reflection and just explode feelings, until you wear out all your feelings then you become a void of no thing then you can reincarnate. The feelings shedding can take as long as it takes cause there is no time. 2 days 3 months 100 years. How do you know you can reincarnate? "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 @James123 Cause I figured out what God is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hojo said: @James123 Cause I figured out what God is. What happened to that God before your birth? Moreover, you are definitely use psychedelics. Meanwhile god has nothing to with mind. Edited February 10 by James123 "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 I would say that you simply disappear, and infinite existence remains. You really are the infinite existence and this experience is one more emergent among infinite emergents, therefore you could say that it is nothing. only existence is, and it is immutable since it is unlimited. So here comes the problem, you could say: another emergent appears again, another experience, but there is already another emergent, there have already been infinite emergents, there will be infinite more, so what is this specific one? I would say that they are all infinite, endlessly parallel that never touch but that they are really the same line since if they are infinite they will all pass through the same points, that is, all of them. so emerging after emerging, evolving towards nowhere since everything already is. simply existence. But I would intuitively say that there will be new, more conscious, deep and complete experiences Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said: I would say that you simply disappear, and infinite existence remains. You really are the infinite existence and this experience is one more emergent among infinite emergents, therefore you could say that it is nothing. only existence is, and it is immutable since it is unlimited. So here comes the problem, you could say: another emergent appears again, another experience, but there is already another emergent, there have already been infinite emergents, there will be infinite more, so what is this specific one? I would say that they are all infinite, endlessly parallel that never touch but that they are really the same line since if they are infinite they will all pass through the same points, that is, all of them. so emerging after emerging, evolving towards nowhere since everything already is. simply existence. But I would intuitively say that there will be new, more conscious, deep and complete experiences If I say, it's end of all suffering and pleasure, therefore simply being as before birth. What you gained, you completely surrender that? "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 1 hour ago, James123 said: If I say, it's end of all suffering and pleasure, therefore simply being as before birth. What you gained, you completely surrender that? Well, now it's an experience happening. Do you think it's the only one in existence? I'd say if there is one there will be more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 The same thing that happens before so-called death: Change of form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 21 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said: The same thing that happens before so-called death: Change of form. So, you believe in reincarnation? 26 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said: Well, now it's an experience happening. Do you think it's the only one in existence? I'd say if there is one there will be more How do you know something is happening? I would say if I experience anything, I am the creator and infinite is just my imagination, which I created and experienced. (But, if only there is an experience) "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 1 hour ago, James123 said: So, you believe in reincarnation? I believe in THIS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 1 hour ago, James123 said: How do you know something is happening? I would say if I experience anything, I am the creator and infinite is just my imagination, which I created and experienced. (But, if only there is an experience) Just the opposite, you are the product of the experience, not the creator. Look, You achieve nothing with that line of thinking that nothing is happening. Try hitting yourself with a hammer in your hand with all your strength, and then say that nothing is happening. What good is it for you? What we are trying to do is open the veils of this experience to open ourselves to what reality is, not to name it. The reality is, that is the indisputable truth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 55 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said: Just the opposite, you are the product of the experience, not the creator. Look, You achieve nothing with that line of thinking that nothing is happening. Try hitting yourself with a hammer in your hand with all your strength, and then say that nothing is happening. What good is it for you? What we are trying to do is open the veils of this experience to open ourselves to what reality is, not to name it. The reality is, that is the indisputable truth Being creator can be suffering. So if I hit my hand with the hummer, I do suffer and that's being infinite, isn't it? God is not only pleasure , it includes suffering too imo. Because, if there is no suffering, there is no pleasure, isn't it? 17 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said: EVERYTHING How do you know? 5 minutes ago, Yimpa said: NOTHING Definitely. "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 Just now, DefinitelyNotARobot said: Because everything is nothing. So, you should say nothin in order to hit the bottom or conclusion, isn't it? "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 10 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said: I COULD say nothing. That is one angle. Another angle would be that you were nothing before you were born, and will be nothing after you die, so what separates the nothing before "your" birth, which managed to give rise to an apparent character inside an apparent world, from the nothing after "your" death? NOTHING! It has no form, thus it holds space for each and every form, including the appearance of a human character that was born on earth, typing some text on an online forum. Another angle seems to be knowledge or idea or beliefs that is learned by humans. "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said: Yeah that's also a valid angle. In the end of the day, I'm simply pointing to the fact that everything and nothing are one and the same thing. You can basically use these words interchangeably, but you don't have to. If you need an advice do not consider human knowledge. "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 1 minute ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said: Also a valid angle. Here is another one: Human knowledge is nothing, so there is no need to avoid the appearance of it, because it already is nothing. Fantastic "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 (edited) Nobody knows anything other than that the present moment exists and is infinite and eternal. There can be no other moment than the present. All else is a belief or thought in this moment. Edited February 10 by r0ckyreed “Our most valuable resource is not time, but rather it is consciousness itself. Consciousness is the basis for everything, and without it, there could be no time and no resource possible. It is only through consciousness and its cultivation that one’s passions, one’s focus, one’s curiosity, one’s time, and one’s capacity to love can be actualized and lived to the fullest.” - r0ckyreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10 30 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said: Nobody knows anything other than that the present moment exists and is infinite and eternal. There can be no other moment than the present. All else is a belief or thought in this moment. Yes, belief or thoughts whatever you say is above. "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
