Can Ayahuasca Give An Intense Spiritual Experience? Sadhguru Answers

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Yeah before sadghurus shambhavi mahamudra I took these Yoga exercises not very serious. After that I was blown away. How can yoga be that powerful! I have now much more respect of sadghuru. I practiced Kundalini yoga, wim Hof before and took over 200 trips on psychedelics so far plus tons of other tools. So I know a bit what powerful means. I had not such experiences like 5 Meo but if I really try hard I think I could get there. 

NIce Sharing!! I think like anything it can affect ppl differently, some have good trips on 5 meo, others don't, but with Sadhguru and Isha Your Initiated into it, and the IE preliminary work is awesome it opens you up in a way so that when you learn the practice it gets inside of You and then it happens..He said in one of the videos that it works on the pranamaya kosha sheath which is the Energy body, once that is taken care of and is clean and intense then the sky is the limit, but I know he doesn't want ppl to necessarily get enlightened and then disappear, first its not a good look for the organization (Isha) and he wants "Undercover Yogi's" here on Earth to make this place a better place to be, so he holds ppl back a bit for this purpose... 

[OBEler]

7 hours ago, Ishanga said:

NIce Sharing!! I think like anything it can affect ppl differently, some have good trips on 5 meo, others don't, but with Sadhguru and Isha Your Initiated into it, and the IE preliminary work is awesome it opens you up in a way so that when you learn the practice it gets inside of You and then it happens..He said in one of the videos that it works on the pranamaya kosha sheath which is the Energy body, once that is taken care of and is clean and intense then the sky is the limit, but I know he doesn't want ppl to necessarily get enlightened and then disappear, first its not a good look for the organization (Isha) and he wants "Undercover Yogi's" here on Earth to make this place a better place to be, so he holds ppl back a bit for this purpose... 

He said with shambhavi mahamudra he wanted you to raise the Kundalini just a bit.

He has an advanced course bhakti spandala (?) where Kundalini is raised even more but still in a save way.

I know he has yoga exercises which activates Kundalini even more but these are too dangerous for the masses.

Overall it can be very powerful but you need to have the genetics for it. Some people have no effects at all still. 5 Meo is in this way way superior because you don't need to do one hour of intense exercises or need the right genetics but just inhale this substance.

Edited February 10 by OBEler

[Salvijus]

Human games > psychedelic experience. 

It is only spiritual growth that is existencially valuable. Unless a psychedelic experience serves that purpose it is a useless thing. And if psychedelics are being used for spiritual growth and seeking truth, then it gets included into the "human games" category. 

Check mate

[Breakingthewall]

14 hours ago, Ishanga said:

happens..He said in one of the videos that it works on the pranamaya kosha sheath which is the Energy body, once that is taken care of and is clean and intense then the sky is the limi

On 9/2/2024 at 1:15 PM, Ishanga said:

 

I will try, The guy definitely has a too big mouth, but that doesn't mean he's a fraud, many people speak well of his practices so it's stupid don't give a chance 

[Jodistrict]

I take 5-meo regularly, but it doesn’t change long term deeply rooted emotional and behavior patterns.   To make long term changes requires a yoga and a lot of inner work.   The medicines are helpers and allies.

[Ishanga]

14 hours ago, OBEler said:

He said with shambhavi mahamudra he wanted you to raise the Kundalini just a bit.

He has an advanced course bhakti spandala (?) where Kundalini is raised even more but still in a save way.

I know he has yoga exercises which activates Kundalini even more but these are too dangerous for the masses.

Overall it can be very powerful but you need to have the genetics for it. Some people have no effects at all still. 5 Meo is in this way way superior because you don't need to do one hour of intense exercises or need the right genetics but just inhale this substance.

For sure Shambhavi is Kundalini kryia, but he toned it down for the masses, made it a bit duller and slower process, no siddhis should arise unless its a long time period after initiation... I did the Bahava Spanda course, it was fun but I'm not the super emotional type, it was worthwhile to go thru, but it didn't have great affects for me personally, many others felt it more strongly, I really liked being in his presence for the 3+days though, observed him allot... Yes he has lots of practices that are not too public, and I agree, most ppl in today's general state of awareness and mental distress could not handle it, even on the physical level ppl are too weak to handle real Kryia Yoga as he would like to teach it, he has too tone down most everything he does, even when in his presence he can blow you away, but he tones it down because of overall craziness and lack of substance that ppl of today have...

[Ishanga]

2 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

I take 5-meo regularly, but it doesn’t change long term deeply rooted emotional and behavior patterns.   To make long term changes requires a yoga and a lot of inner work.   The medicines are helpers and allies.

Yes exactly, sooner or later You have to deal with your Karma and to first stop creating more karma in daily life (by living now, not reacting to situations, but responding, accepting life as it is, etc...) and to deal with the alotted karma given for this life, that can't be done via psychedelic experiences, it gives you the oneness experience, great sense of Love/belonging and insights, but it doesn't allow you to deal with your shit that you have to deal with...Yoga does in the long run...especially with a living Guru to help you..