For you guys who think that is easy for girls.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

Women lust after men who they see as having a higher value/status than they do...

Women don't prefer a man having high values and men of status because they lust after them. The definition of lust is to have a sexual desire for. They do it because of how secure those men could potentially make them feel. Why do men lust after attractive looking women. Nothing to do with security. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

She can dress as she wish. What consitutes dressin like a Slut? For some super conservative cultures even not covering their face is considered sluty. Come on man, woman can dress as they wish. And Why woman should lust over man with lower status? Do you lust over a lady in the streets askig coins smelling bad?  Get real. Ps: Leo I am not offending this guy. Offence is calling people Sluts for the way they dress. Is an offence to commom sense-

Thank you.

[Rafael Thundercat]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

I wonder what are the consequences men face by dressing a certain type of way. Hmmmm, i'm not sure. If he walks around with no underwear to the point where it is noticeable, are there any similar to the consequences women face according to you or if they go topless or wear tight pants, are there any similar consequences, if not why. Answer that and you'll see how ridiculous your statement is.

If a mas dress like a Travesti in Middle-East the consequences can come very fast and deadly, but of course is due to the bias of the prevalent culture. we always have this tendency to blame the individual and forget that culture have a big influence in choices people make. Woman sometimes or even most of times dress to atract. So what? Dont men go to the gym and buy Stylish Clothes to have more atraction power. In the mate game nobody or no-body should be judged since survival is a personal thing. Some people dont care about being atractive and is ok. Sometimes i go to the street with any clothes because I am not up to the hunt and sometimes I am more carefull because I am intentionaly going to meet and atract girls. Intentional and functional, no shame. Just a decision.

[Princess Arabia]

23 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

If a mas dress like a Travesti in Middle-East the consequences can come very fast and deadly, but of course is due to the bias of the prevalent culture. we always have this tendency to blame the individual and forget that culture have a big influence in choices people make.

Yes, but you and I know this wasn't the kind of consequences he was referring to, but I understand where you were coming from with this.

 

23 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Woman sometimes or even most of times dress to atract

It's not about dressing to attract. There are feminine clothing and there are masculine clothing. A happily married woman dressing in a short mini skirt and going out with her gfs is not trying to attract, she might just enjoys wearing mini skirts. Most of the time women dress in ways they like to dress not necessarily looking to attract anything. Men are the ones that seem to think we're always trying to attract them by the way we dress at times or even do our hair and make-up when it was just solely for the purpose of how it makes us feel.

Sometimes women may dress purposefully to attract a mate, but it's not most of the time. Women's clothing is different from men's not because they were designed to necessarily attract the opposite sex but for the sole reason that women's bodies are different than men's and it's what fits and compliments her figure. 

Edited February 13 by Princess Arabia

[Rafael Thundercat]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Sometimes women may dress purposefully to attract a mate, but it's not most of the time.

Good you said this otherwise you would be lying. I heard many times directly from woman: Today I am dressed to Hunt!!  So they directly affirm that the goal was to hunt for something, a one nigth stand or whaever. 

[Princess Arabia]

20 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Good you said this otherwise you would be lying. I heard many times directly from woman: Today I am dressed to Hunt!!  So they directly affirm that the goal was to hunt for something, a one nigth stand or whaever. 

Of, course, I would be silly to deny that. I dress to attract all the time because it's what I do for a living. But you see, my dressing to attract may not come off as dressing to attract because of what I wear and how I wear it. Believe it or not, the types of guys i'm looking to attract, doesn't require for me to dress in very revealing clothes. Sexy, yes but that could still be just wearing a pair of jeans and a nice top with some heels or boots. Or a simple dress or clothing that's not considered "slutty" as some may call it. 

I'm more conservatively dressed most of the times as a working girl, trying to attract, more than some of those girls partying and clubbing on the week-ends and I still get dates. Why, because I concentrate more on the face and hair. I'm very tall 5'10" and I already stand out in a crowd when I'm dressed mainly because of my height and pretty face (not bragging but been told all my life so I must be), so I don't have to dress too out there to attract. Just enough to look feminine, but you'll have to love pretty women and nice hair only because sometimes I'm very covered up and even wear jackets and coats trying to attract. I don't need those revealing clothes to do it. Plus, I can hold a good conversation to keep him interested wherever it goes. It's all mental.

Edited February 13 by Princess Arabia

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

2 hours ago, universe said:

This test doesn't prove much. Other than that if everything else is equal, the better looking guy gets the attention.

No one would argue otherwise.

 

Looks matter in Online Dating. Because women have nothing else to go by than looks.

And with that knowledge you can increase your matches drastically by getting good pictures taken from a professional.

Try using an attractive milli vanilli or lenny kravitz looking black male and tell me your results 🤣.

Its funny because white people are the only ones that claim that isn't the case. 

Edited February 13 by MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI

[Buck Edwards]

I'm tired of the value talk. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

5 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

I'm tired of the value talk. 

Yeah, so better stop Talking about and Start Adding Value. Of Answering the question: What do I bring to the Table? Or just forget all about, forget the Table, Values etc.. but Also not comaplaning when there is no Woman coming.

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Rafael Thundercat said:

Yeah, so better stop Talking about and Start Adding Value. Of Answering the question: What do I bring to the Table? Or just forget all about, forget the Table, Values etc.. but Also not comaplaning when there is no Woman coming.

You got me all wrong tophat. I wasn't talking about bringing value to the table, I get that sort of. Just this talk about how someone is beautiful and then there are millions who are equally beautiful. Something about this kind of talk that makes it extremely commodified. Everyone has some unique inherent value by the way. 

Nobody needs a thesis on love. 

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

She has no idea that dressing like a slut has its consequences.

Watch the misogyny.

[Jacquelope]

On 2/7/2024 at 4:44 PM, universe said:

It's always fascinating for me as a man how women think men view the world.

Guys take notes.

If it took her 20 years to understand that men are attracted to looks. How much do you think women care how you look on a 1-10 scale?

It would have been a New York tragedy (like Sex in the City level) for her to have learned how much men care about looks and then run into me back in my single years. I was wary as holy fuck about hot babes. I had learned through years of observation and unfortunate personal experience that they have enormous power in the dating scene and play way too many games. My first relationship with a hot woman was in my teen years and it was dreadful, as in so bad it made up for all the hell that I avoided in future relationships. I watched them in social settings and other relationships and they truly are different than the average woman.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Likewise angels fear to tread where fools fall off of cliffs, and I strived to be like these angels. Let the fools rush ahead and spring the traps for me, like the glass floor contest in Squid Games.

This lady in this video would have run into me and found a man who was more interested in her moral character and personality than her looks. And she would have been very confused. But I learned to adapt to this after being thrown in the emotional wood chipper by my first hot babe girlfriend and 'get a hot babe' (as in the obsession with them) elicits an allergic reaction with me.

I'm sure I'm not the only man who is like this, in fact I've met quite a few who aren't.

[Rafael Thundercat]

Lucky there are some girls out there open the eyes of some other girls about the pitfalls they can enter

 

[Jacquelope]

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Lucky there are some girls out there open the eyes of some other girls about the pitfalls they can enter

 

This woman is a superhero. It's about time someone said this. Women do get away with pushing this manipulation game and none of these techniques are new, I've seen them my entire life. My one truly bad LTR was a bunch of this crap back during my teens in the mid-late 1980s, 40 years ago. I didn't run away from her at first and ugh. The stink of these tactics drove me away from many women I was pursuing. I thought I was just being chicken or entitled. But I didn't run into that kind of girl/woman ever again so frak them.

[Rafael Thundercat]

4 hours ago, Jacquelope said:

This woman is a superhero. It's about time someone said this. Women do get away with pushing this manipulation game and none of these techniques are new, I've seen them my entire life. My one truly bad LTR was a bunch of this crap back during my teens in the mid-late 1980s, 40 years ago. I didn't run away from her at first and ugh. The stink of these tactics drove me away from many women I was pursuing. I thought I was just being chicken or entitled. But I didn't run into that kind of girl/woman ever again so frak them.

The balance is to be able to study and understand the shadow sides of the feminine and masculine ands still keep the heart open to the ligth sides too. Is to be able so observe the Devil in the Face and Love the Devil instead of Hate, and to see that the Devil is just acting like that because it serve the Devil as a Survival Tool. To be able to see all shit going on and still keep the Pose and not losing the mind on it. For me is what NotSoErudite is able to do, She is able to be Still and calm and Mindfull even in the Middle os Storm, is a capacity even memeber of this Forum are not able to do. 

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

On 2/13/2024 at 1:39 PM, Princess Arabia said:

And how exactly does one dress like a slut. Is it by wearing shorts and a tank top. Wearing a mini-skirt. Wearing a short dress. Wearing a top that shows cleavage. Or is it wearing a garter belt and stockings with stilettos and just a bra. Maybe tight jeans with fashionable rips in them that shows some skin, or a sexy black or red dress that sits just above the knees or a little bit higher that shows what she naturally has and cannot be avoided by wearing that type of dress. Is wearing a bathing suit to the beach considered slutty or only if its worn other places. Is it appropriate for a hooker to dress a certain way as in very revealing clothes, but if a regular girl wears the same thing now she has to watch out for the consequences. And how exactly, sir do women not dress like sluts. Wear baggy pants and sneakers, corduroys and flannel, wear a Habib and a tablecloth, or is it what you consider to look slutty because of what society has brainwashed you with in addition to your own thoughts and beliefs about certain clothing.

Why do women have to live their lives worried about how they dress because of the consequences, and I'm sure you weren't referring to indecent exposure to the point where the authorities has to get involved because of public nudity or a similiar violation of the law. 

What are the consequences, may I ask, is it rape, is it unwanted gawking or somewhere in between. As you're so aware of the consequences, could you enlightenment me as to when these consequences happen more often so I try to avoid going out those hours and avoid going to those places. Aww shoot, doesn't matter because I've heard of little girls getting molested without having to dress in revealing clothes and even females dressed in conservative looking clothes even in their school uniforms and pajamas. So, I guess I'd better beware of the consequences just by leaving my house, anywhere anytime, wearing whatever.

Nothing in the video suggests what this girl was wearing at the time she was being looked at. It was your ideas of what you assumed she was wearing and the only consequences a woman should face by the way she dresses is if she's violating the law where she's located to the point of public disturbance not because you have a problem with it and it makes you feel some type of way on a personal level.

I wonder what are the consequences men face by dressing a certain type of way. Hmmmm, i'm not sure. If he walks around with no underwear to the point where it is noticeable, are there any similar to the consequences women face according to you or if they go topless or wear tight pants, are there any similar consequences, if not why. Answer that and you'll see how ridiculous your statement is.

Being a slut is for both men and women. Don't try to complicate this. 

Dressing like a slut means showing skin in a way that reveals your sexual assets.

Cleavage does not make you a slut. Unless it's underboobs, or so much so I can see your breast areola/nipples.

Cameltoes, see-through titty shirts, booty cheeks hanging out of thin booty short-shorts, tying the back-end of your winter coat in a knot(while wearing it) to show off your ass, see through leggings(also without panties), dressing like you work at hooters or in the sex industry(soft pornography) is what makes you seen from a sexual perspective. I've heard girls tell each other to "Dress Slutty". This is fine in the right contexts.

How to not dress slutty: Dress in a way where you don't reveal or highlight your sexual assets. Dress in a normal way. I wear womens clothing and don't look like a slut. And no bathing suits are suitable for the environment and the same goes for a guy wearing a speedo. It all deals with the CONTEXT.

I have to go to the gym and watch were my eyes go out of fear I'll end up on tiktok and be labeled a creep. You can't show up to the gym half-naked and complain when someone looks at you. The same goes for a man that shows up half naked.

I like women who dress slutty = what some call "cute". I don't mind it as a heterosexual male. Just don't complain if I look at you(not stare).

Edited February 15 by MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

Women can be very mischievous and play incredible mind-games, and deny this is what they are doing.

[Yimpa]

On 2/13/2024 at 0:04 PM, universe said:

Looks matter in Online Dating. Because women have nothing else to go by than looks.

Also comes down to luck if you aren’t the most physically attractive. This took me over thousands of attempts. I don’t recommend this method, but I did win the jackpot with my current partner.

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

Being a slut is for both men and women. Don't try to complicate this. 

Dressing like a slut means showing skin in a way that reveals your sexual assets.

Cleavage does not make you a slut. Unless it's underboobs, or so much so I can see your breast areola/nipples.

Cameltoes, see-through titty shirts, booty cheeks hanging out of thin booty short-shorts, tying the back-end of your winter coat in a knot(while wearing it) to show off your ass, see through leggings(also without panties), dressing like you work at hooters or in the sex industry(soft pornography) is what makes you seen from a sexual perspective. I've heard girls tell each other to "Dress Slutty". This is fine in the right contexts.

How to not dress slutty: Dress in a way where you don't reveal or highlight your sexual assets. Dress in a normal way. I wear womens clothing and don't look like a slut. And no bathing suits are suitable for the environment and the same goes for a guy wearing a speedo. It all deals with the CONTEXT.

I have to go to the gym and watch were my eyes go out of fear I'll end up on tiktok and be labeled a creep. You can't show up to the gym half-naked and complain when someone looks at you. The same goes for a man that shows up half naked.

I like women who dress slutty = what some call "cute". I don't mind it as a heterosexual male. Just don't complain if I look at you(not stare).

Ok God, thanks for the rules. The world revolves around you and the sweet little bubble you exist in. Don't be alarmed when it gets crushed and your house of cards and little bubble you have created for yourself starts to crumble and hit you upside the head when you recognize that all of these are just your own set of rules you have concocted and that the Universe doesn't care about them.

These are just labels, ideas about things and circumstances that are irrelevant to anything and now you have become a slave to your own rules because now you will have to live up to them and react negatively when these situations are placed in your little bubble and will be placing your energy and attention to what you detest and now you have given them the power to have dominion over you. Just more things to become a slave over and for the mind to control you with. But, of course, you're not aware of this because you wouldn't be so proudly demonstrating how your own little bubble of existence has you under lock and key. Now let me see you go out and put these rules into place so they may not offend you anymore. Go ahead. Let me know how it worked out. 

[Jacquelope]

On 2/13/2024 at 10:04 AM, universe said:

Looks matter in Online Dating. Because women have nothing else to go by than looks.

And with that knowledge you can increase your matches drastically by getting good pictures taken from a professional.

That depends on the dating site/app. I used Match to find my wife and there's a hell of a lot you can do to build a killer profile that goes well beyond looks. They even have profile coaches on there. I used one and I've reaped 20 years of benefit from that.

Adultfriendfinder has landed a few male friends of mine some great casual encounters and two men married the women they found there. None of them were above average looks. You can load your profile there with content besides looks.... such as erotic stories. Women will answer. One guy wrote a graphic cunnilingus story on there (following my suggestion) and became what some men in my social group covertly call Son of Ticketmaster*. He showed us more than 20 responses and got himself in a little bit of hot water bedding two women at once but he was successful, he just kinda got carried away. Yeah, you can use AFF to find a wife or a casual partner. As usual don't have a slovenly photo and you can make it work.

* Back in the 1990s there was this dude that had an overly religious gf who thought his fetish for giving her oral sex was sinful and creepy and she broke up with him, even outed him to the women she knew for special spite points. ("Beware, he's a creep!") Well all that did was have his Motorola flip phone exploding with calls. We called him "Ticketmaster" because as the joke went he had to put up a Ticketmaster booth for all the casual action being thrown his way. Some of my friends were there when this happened; we now call this new dude "Son of Ticketmaster", drives him nuts now that it got him in trouble for double-timing but oh well lol. Good times. Let it be known that you're into going down on her and it never gets old, you'll catch someone. Just.... don't try to two-time, that's like juggling live hand grenades!