Don't Take Spirituality Too Seriously !

[The Universe]

Because if you take Spirituality too seriously there is no way that you can  attain enlightement. Why ? Because thoughts and desire happens when you put a resistance on it so, don't take Spirituality and life in general too seriously because as Alan Watts said : "life is a game, plundge into it, move with it, join the dance".

 

And if you do that a big relief will happen so let go, just so thoughts won't happens too much . Calm the ego first then see what's up.

Edited April 10, 2017 by The Universe

[Shin]

I would say, don't think about it and focus really hard, works pretty fine.

You can have a huge will to discover it, but at that point it isn't that it is "serious", it is just that you want to know, you will become more and more genuinely curious.
It is a peaceful will though, but firm and deep.

Don't listen to your mind when it says "is that it ?" "hey hey is that it ?" "is that concept is right, hey, it makes sense right ?!" or something similar, focus again on the present moment and try to be present as much as you can.
It will happen sooner than you think if you just focus on being present whenever you can, and have a steady meditation habit every day.

Just don't expect an amazing and sudden experience, that can happen, for sure, but don't expect that (it may never happen).
If you expect that, you'll miss the point, which is to increase bit by bit your consciousness level, which ultimately will change very radically your everyday experience
It will be radical in the sense that if you look back months/years ago, your old vision of life will seem silly.

 

 

Edited April 10, 2017 by Shin

[The White Belt]

Another thing. Don't delay your happiness until 'Enlightenment'. Be happy and alive in each and every moment. Treat every moment as a blessing.

Edited April 10, 2017 by BeginnerActualizer

[Loreena]

Don't take life too seriously.

Life happens. 

[electroBeam]

I think there is a very fine balance between desiring enlightenment and not desiring it.

Because if you don't want enlightenment enough, you wont get it, it takes heaps of work to get. 99% of people don't want enlightenment, and they don't get it.

But on the other hand like what Koi says, if you want it too much, you're actually getting attached to it, and that attachment will block yourself from attaining actual enlightenment.

I think once you get to a certain point where you can't do any more enlightenment/you are tired of enlightenment, that's when you let go of your beliefs and desires. A 2 way process.

 

[The Universe]

15 minutes ago, BeginnerActualizer said:

Another thing. Don't delay your happiness until 'Enlightenment'. Be happy and alive in each and every moment. Treat every moment as a blessing.

"Because the world is the création of god and you are part of it". Great comment

Edited April 10, 2017 by The Universe

[The White Belt]

@The Universe Thank you! And a great quote. I don't like when people say 'life is an illusion', 'life is a lie'. That's a way to look at it but it's a belief. 

If existentially what you are is awareness, you are still an awareness observing this beautiful, strange, nuanced, mysterious and creative life. 

MWAH 

[The Universe]

23 minutes ago, BeginnerActualizer said:

@The Universe Thank you! And a great quote. I don't like when people say 'life is an illusion', 'life is a lie'. That's a way to look at it but it's a belief. 

If existentially what you are is awareness, you are still an awareness observing this beautiful, strange, nuanced, mysterious and creative life. 

MWAH 

Exactly ! What a immersive simulation !

[The Universe]

1 hour ago, Shin said:

I would say, don't think about it and focus really hard, works pretty fine.

You can have a huge will to discover it, but at that point it isn't that it is "serious", it is just that you want to know, you will become more and more genuinely curious.
It is a peaceful will though, but firm and deep.

Don't listen to your mind when it says "is that it ?" "hey hey is that it ?" "is that concept is right, hey, it makes sense right ?!" or something similar, focus again on the present moment and try to be present as much as you can.
It will happen sooner than you think if you just focus on being present whenever you can, and have a steady meditation habit every day.

Just don't expect an amazing and sudden experience, that can happen, for sure, but don't expect that (it may never happen).
If you expect that, you'll miss the point, which is to increase bit by bit your consciousness level, which ultimately will change very radically your everyday experience
It will be radical in the sense that if you look back months/years ago, your old vision of life will seem silly.

 

 

I Love you Shin. <3 You are SO helpful ! I hope you to have a great journey on the path .

[The Universe]

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

I think there is a very fine balance between desiring enlightenment and not desiring it.

Because if you don't want enlightenment enough, you wont get it, it takes heaps of work to get. 99% of people don't want enlightenment, and they don't get it.

But on the other hand like what Koi says, if you want it too much, you're actually getting attached to it, and that attachment will block yourself from attaining actual enlightenment.

I think once you get to a certain point where you can't do any more enlightenment/you are tired of enlightenment, that's when you let go of your beliefs and desires. A 2 way process.

@electroBeam : what you say is pretty True but to be more realistic it's just that : Awakening is made to let your identity fall down and once It's falling down there you let go, relax just to not get back to your identity and eventually enlightement happens. ( PS : this post is essentially just a reaction about Koi video to share it further into this forum . Thank you for your analysis ).

Edited April 10, 2017 by The Universe

[The Universe]

1 hour ago, Loreena said:

Don't take life too seriously.

Life happens. 

These things happen ;).

[Shin]

1 hour ago, unknownworld said:

There is no such thing as "enlightment". Enlightment is a concept, implying a future event. There is no past or future. There is only now  

 

Some would not get it, so I'll try to explain a bit.

You can't think that it will happen in the future, because if you do that, you miss the work you have to do in the present, which is to be fully present whatever the situation.
You WILL "achieve" enlightenment in the future, because right now you're not used to live in the present, to be conscious.
So there is work on you to do, to be able to transcend yourself along the way, but this work takes place in the PRESENT.

This is a paradox you might can't get right now, that's ok, just hold onto it.

This dude explain it way better:

 

Edited April 10, 2017 by Shin

[Toby]

1 hour ago, unknownworld said:

There is no such thing as "enlightment". Enlightment is a concept, implying a future event. There is no past or future. There is only now  

The now is a concept too.

[Arkandeus]

12 minutes ago, Toby said:

The now is a concept too.

I think both of you guys are a funny example of taking spirituality too seriously, where it gets to the point where human dialogue gets shut down because of a spiritual concept. 
 

[The Universe]

31 minutes ago, Toby said:

The now is a concept too.

Sensations aren't. This is one of the only things that are "Real".

[Prabhaker]

5 hours ago, The Universe said:

Don't Take Spirituality Too Seriously !

      The ego can exist only if you take yourself and everything seriously. Nothing kills the ego like playfulness, like laughter. When you start taking life as fun, the ego has to die, it cannot exist anymore. Ego is illness; it needs an atmosphere of sadness to exist. Seriousness creates the sadness in you. Sadness is a necessary soil for the ego. 

    Be sincere, but not serious. Sincerity is something else, seriousness is something else. If you are serious you are thinking in terms of goals, means and ends, ways and achievement; you are ambitious. Seriousness is ambition and it is a disease. You may have turned your attention from this world, but your ambitious mind is now thinking about the other. Seriousness is not religious. A serious man will automatically become a philosophic man; he will start thinking. Seriousness is of the head. That's why a serious person, a thinker, becomes a long face. He cannot even laugh, he cannot smile, he cannot play, because always he is thinking: "What is to be achieved through it?"

[Heart of Space]

I take spirituality very seriously in a way.  It hasn't hindered my progress.  It's a big part of my life.  I think more importantly we need to love an accept ourselves no matter what our perceived progress is.  If you can do that then you can take spirituality as seriously as you want.  I'm not so concerned with enlightenment anymore.  Ironically, I think talking about it in the way that it is being talked about in this thread is a far bigger pitfall than "taking spirituality seriously."  It sounds like someone is making excuses so that they can be lazy about their spiritual development.  tsk tsk    At least I find this is true for me, others may disagree.  

Edited April 10, 2017 by Heart of Space

[The Universe]

1 hour ago, Arkandeus said:

I think both of you guys are a funny example of taking spirituality too seriously, where it gets to the point where human dialogue gets shut down because of a spiritual concept. 
 

Mindblowing.