What you see NOW is all that exists...

[Inliytened1]

3 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

@Inliytened1 are you really those things ? 

I wouldn't lie.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Inliytened1 

 Really ? And so it was the truth ? how can I be sure of it ?

 And if you deceived yourself ?

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

@Inliytened1 

 Really ? And so it was the truth ? how can I be sure of it ?

 And if you deceived yourself ?

Enlightenment is Absolute.  You won't have any doubt.  There won't be a you.  You will be the Absolute.  It's a miracle. 

Edited January 18 by Inliytened1

[zurew]

@Jrix just bite it and engage with @Inliytened1's question.

Your actions dont necessarily show your metaphysical beliefs ( this is obviously true - like there could be given a 1000 seperate reasons why you would do a specific action) and even if they perfectly did, how would @Inliytened1 know exactly all the actions that you take on a daily basis?

Edited January 18 by zurew

[Yimpa]

We all experience reality in vastly different ways, yet it’s also magically interconnected.

Love is everything, including truth, perspective(s), faucets, nothing, hallucinations, infinity, etc.

 You’re enlightenment whether you like it or not! 

[Inliytened1]

24 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

We all experience reality in vastly different ways, yet it’s also magically interconnected.

Love is everything, including truth, perspective(s), faucets, nothing, hallucinations, infinity, etc.

 You’re enlightenment whether you like it or not! 

Ultimately you have to face your own Aloneness as God.  All others are part of your own mind as God.

Edited January 18 by Inliytened1

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Inliytened1

But don't you feel like engaging with 'people' rather than your ideas that they aren't ?

What if you are in romance with this perspective of being alone. But in fact it's all very real and maybe it's all ultra material.

Only your analysis of the situation seems real. But is it? Can you trust your absolute?

Let's imagine the mind of a paranoiac' seems like for him everyone want to abuse him.  But is that true ?

Maybe if you're truly happy you would only see good in everyone. 

So why don't you assume good on a first glance ? Why come to any kind of suspicion?

I imagine from this conv that there was only good intentions from all participants.

Until proven otherwise by something else that wouldn't be inside my head.

Edited January 18 by AerisVahnEphelia

[Davino]

@Anonman90 Pretty much agree. 

This concept from Leo helped me finally crack how it works, reality creates from top to down. From what is, you create threads and worlds of meaning, literally from top present experience everything is spawned ad infinitum. It is not random imagination but a perfectly cohesive intelligent self aware awake dream VR reality.

[Inliytened1]

3 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

@Inliytened1

But don't you feel like engaging with 'people' rather than your ideas that they aren't ?

 

Of course.  That's called living the dream.  Do I seem like I don't?  Afterall, I'm engaging now with you, yes?

 

3 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

@Inliytened1

 

What if you are in romance with this perspective of being alone. But in fact it's all very real and maybe it's all ultra material.

I wish that was true.   But there cannot be anything independent of consciousness.   If you just sit and contemplate it for a minute you would realize its absolutely absurd.   Matter thats independent of consciousness.  It's not even remotely possible- because everything is consciousness.   This should be completely obvious to people - but it's not and that fact truly baffles me.

[Breakingthewall]

10 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ultimately you have to face your own Aloneness as God.  All others are part of your own mind as God.

 when you have realization of solitude it is still limited. When there are no limits, there can be no loneliness because there is no center that feels alone, you are no longer there, you as the center must fall, this is the difficult part of the game. 

The self is a greedy son of a bitch and does whatever it takes to not let go of what he has, control.

[vibv]

22 hours ago, Anonman90 said:

Nowhere! As soon as they're out of your sight, they vanish into void.

Not exactly. Everything exists all the time, but you're not aware of 99,9999..% of it.

The world exists, but it exists only in your own mind.

[Jrix]

14 hours ago, zurew said:

@Jrix just bite it and engage with @Inliytened1's question.

Your actions dont necessarily show your metaphysical beliefs ( this is obviously true - like there could be given a 1000 seperate reasons why you would do a specific action) and even if they perfectly did, how would @Inliytened1 know exactly all the actions that you take on a daily basis?

If someone's answer is deemed insufficient, it is a kind of decorum to remark on what is insufficient about it.


 

[Yimpa]

2 hours ago, vibv said:

The world exists, but it exists only in your own mind.

The world is Mind. You don’t own the world, you are the World.

I promise I’m not a hippie.

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Jrix said:

If someone's answer is deemed insufficient, it is a kind of decorum to remark on what is insufficient about it.


 

Let's be honest.   While highly intelligent, I find the simple fact that you hold no worldview troublesome.  Troublesome from the standpoint that I can't have a reasonable dialague with you because your level of development is far below me.  That's not a knock. But I'm in my fifties and your probably in your what - teens or early twenties.   So if you want to hold a metaphysical dialogue with me then you might want to have at least established a worldview. 

Edited January 19 by Inliytened1

[BipolarGrowth]

There is no such time as “NOW”. The ending chapters of the book Seeing That Frees by Rob Burbea explain this quite well. If any of what I say resonates or intrigues you, I encourage you to read Rob’s book. He explains things in a way that far outshines my explanation of this. 
 

If there is no past leading to the present and the present does not lead into the future, where is there room for the present to exist at all? In the same way you say that those in traffic no longer exist once out of your experience, the present is leaving your experience in an incalculable number of sensations at an incalculable rate of change. There is never even one particle of experience which remains from one “moment” to another. There is no such thing as “moments” because there is not even the smallest component of experience which is stable for the time it takes for a moment to be a real thing. 
 

Reality is a mirage consisting of many smaller mirages. No thing you can point to, speak of, think of, or even directly perceive including consciousness, awareness, form, God, time, the present moment, Brahman, Maya, Atman, Nirvana, the Absolute, the Relative, etc. has a truly substantial self nature. This is what I mean by mirage. All apparent phenomena arise together dependent upon illusions. And yet there is still the appearance of something real actually happening in time to a real person. 
 

Seeing that reality is truly empty of any substance, you can transcend all bondage. This is Liberation, and even this Liberation is not any more real than the numerous apparent illusions that one can be Liberated from reifying. 

Edited January 19 by BipolarGrowth

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Inliytened1 I've dialog without worldview all the time.

 

[Inliytened1]

38 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

@Inliytened1 I've dialog without worldview all the time.

 

He was trolling. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

He was trolling. 

Was it ? my best guess is confusion about one self. How I see it is people not liking how someone dream reality. But that's just an alt story : 

'they must dream like me'

Why attached to this ? Why dreaming this ?

You think there is an objective case for it ?

That all the clever paranoia that the evil people are here to abuse you is a real thing ?

Why that ?

Maybe he was in your reality for a moment but you seems provocative also  ( not saying you are ).

If he was doing what you think he is doing. Does that means you are the only one who is right all the time ? How convenient.

Alright maybe but then if someone tell you're engaging in fantasy about others and appear provocative does that makes them projecting or truthful in the same manner as you call the reality of another one a joke ?

Is that only about power for you then ?

Edited January 19 by AerisVahnEphelia

[Inliytened1]

7 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

Was it ? my best guess is confusion about one self. How I see it is people not liking how someone dream reality. But that's just an alt story : 

'they must dream like me'

Why attached to this ? Why dreaming this ?

You think there is an objective case for it ?

That all the clever paranoia that the evil people are here to abuse you is a real thing ?

Why that ?

Maybe he was in your reality for a moment but you seems provocative also  ( not saying you are ).

If he was doing what you think he is doing. Does that means you are the only one who is right all the time ? How convenient.

Alright maybe but then if someone tell you're engaging in fantasy about others and appear provocative does that makes them projecting or truthful in the same manner as you call the reality of another one a joke ?

Is that only about power for you then ?

I'm here to help you awaken.  You.  That's my sole purpose here.  If anything I contribute here aids in that mission- then I have succeeded.  If it does not, then I have failed.  

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Inliytened1 Don't worry about my awakening, I m here to help you on something not related awakening, I m good for now, but it's a talk based on mind and intellect.

I don't doubt you're enlightened or knowing the Truth, and wouldn't dare question things I've no awareness of.

talking of mind and how things work, purely relative and dualistic, but those things appear to you now.

I m just asking you, if you're sincere, like :
(("So this character in my dream act like this because in the past many others acted like "blabla" with me , they used word like "blabla", so it must be about "blabla" )) (that's a story) " BUT would this "blabla intuition story" be real enough or could that be your mind tricking you based on prior experience / trauma ? ( and is this experience I m describing here real ? : be sincere )

if you imagine terrible things before they happen, that's usually on you, especially because they are not a thing in the "real world", but you could also imagine people having the best intentions and not knowing how to handle their own Truth, maybe they don't have the capacity yet to love and display it according to your measurement of "kindness/love/enlightment".

So if you want to have real compassion and love, maybe you shall have a mindful loving doubt before casting an evil doubt ?

___

Maybe there is things beyond what we think we know, we must stay curious.

Edited January 19 by AerisVahnEphelia