Can being sexually explicit effectively screen for girls who are DTF?

[SeaMonster]

27 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Or maybe most girls aren't as sexually liberated and open-minded as I though they would be like in Sex and the City or Fifty Shades of Grey.

Popular entertainment is bullshit.

If you want to "touch women" you need nonverbal indications that they would be receptive to that AND you need to escalate that in very small, brief, incremental steps of touching.  In other words, there is a whole level of subtlety you need to master to try that kind of approach.

Edited January 16 by SeaMonster

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

 

Okay, fine then, how about I screen quickly for horny girls by just talking about sex explicitly right away on approach? If she doesn't want to talk about sex then she's out and it's her lost. I would keep doing until I find a cool sexually liberated girl I am attracted to who likes to talk about sex and then sleep with me.

Also, I don't judge women who sleep around a lot.

How about just go be a porn star. Problem solved. IT takes a little more than to be horny for most women to just sleep with random guys. It happens but it's not common. You already had a thread about this before so why are you back with the same Ole topic. It ain't go work now, if it didn't work then. Why don't you just go get a horny gf

And I know you don't judge women like that so my comment wasn't for you personally. Stop thinking men and women are the same because there are differences and when it comes to sexuality it is like night and day. 

[Hardkill]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

How about just go be a porn star. Problem solved. IT takes a little more than to be horny for most women to just sleep with random guys. It happens but it's not common. You already had a thread about this before so why are you back with the same Ole topic. It ain't go work now, if it didn't work then. Why don't you just go get a horny gf

And I know you don't judge women like that so my comment wasn't for you personally. Stop thinking men and women are the same because there are differences and when it comes to sexuality it is like night and day. 

but why won't that work even on most sexually liberated DTF girls?

I don't want to be a pornstar and I don't think I would even be successful at it if I tried it.

Edited January 16 by Hardkill

[Princess Arabia]

44 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Or maybe most girls aren't as sexually liberated and open-minded as I though they would be like in Sex and the City or Fifty Shades of Grey.

You're even asking the same questions like you did last time cause I remember the fifty shades of Grey phrase came up then too. 

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

 

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

but why won't that work even on most sexually liberated DTF girls?

I don't want to be a pornstar and I don't think I would even be successful at it if I tried it.

Sexually liberated for a female doesn't mean I'll sleep with the 1st horny guy that touches me. 

 

 

 

 

[Hardkill]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Sexually liberated for a female doesn't mean I'll sleep with the 1st horny guy that touches me. 

Then what's the difference between a sexually liberated girl and conservative sexually repressed girl? Is the former easy or harder to pull than the latter?

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're even asking the same questions like you did last time cause I remember the fifty shades of Grey phrase came up then too. 

That was a long time ago and I don't think I ever mentioned Sex and the City before. lol

 

Edited January 16 by Hardkill

[lostingenosmaze]

59 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Or maybe most girls aren't as sexually liberated and open-minded as I though they would be like in Sex and the City or Fifty Shades of Grey.

Women aren't like what they are portrayed in the movies? No way Sherlock

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Then what's the difference between a sexually liberated girl and conservative sexually repressed girl? Is the former easy or harder to pull than the latter?

That was a long time ago and I don't think I ever mentioned Sex and the City before. lol

 

Do you think women view sexual liberation as just going around sleeping with some random dude touching their ass. No that's not it. You went from one extreme to the next. Why don't you try a different tactic if you're seeing you're having the same problem. 

 

 

 

 

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, lostingenosmaze said:

Women aren't like what they are portrayed in the movies? No way Sherlock

Yeah but even in those movies, those women aren't even what he's describing. Do you see those women just jumping into bed with random men just because they were touched a particular way. 

[Spiritual Warrior]

@Hardkill what do you want for your life in terms of dating & relationships. Do you want to become the best husband that you can possibly be, are you trying to just have fun and hit a certain number of girls, are you looking to attain certain skills that you can only attain from approaching a lot of women?

What is it that you really want out of all of this? 

I'm genuinely curious

Edited January 16 by Spiritual Warrior

[Hardkill]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Do you think women view sexual liberation as just going around sleeping with some random dude touching their ass. No that's not it. You went from one extreme to the next. Why don't you try a different tactic if you're seeing you're having the same problem. 

Maybe if she happens to be horny because she's ovulating or for whatever other reason and she thinks I look hot and liked how ballsy I came off, then maybe she'd be down to fuck.

[Hardkill]

2 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

 

 

@Hardkill are you for real mate....

People actually responding to this 

Why should I apologize for being who I am as long I am not threatening anybody at all or hurting anyone on here or harassing anyone on here or posting any porn pics on here?

Edited January 16 by Hardkill

[Princess Arabia]

8 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Maybe if she happens to be horny because she's ovulating or for whatever other reason and she thinks I look hot and liked how ballsy I came off, then maybe she'd be down to fuck.

Well hey,.this is Infinity and everything exists so keep on dreaming and it will definitely come to fruition. I can tell you are very persistent and brave and you might just be in the right place at the right time for your ovulating, horny chick who thinks you're hot and is ready for some bloody hot sex.

[SeaMonster]

10 hours ago, Squeekytoy said:

@Hardkill are you for real mate....

People actually responding to this 

You're shocked that COVID has retarded the socialization of people his age?

Yes, certain things need to be spelled out for them...

[SeaMonster]

19 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

Like if she's sexually liberated then she must want to instantly jump on my raging boner when I grope her out of the blue, or else what's the difference between that and a mormon lol. Or whatever he's thinking, I can't really tell at this point.

"Black or white" thinking is not atypical whenever someone has little experience in some area (or in autism, which I don't know if he has, but it's possible.)

Edited January 16 by SeaMonster

[SeaMonster]

4 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

Fair enough but I'd say this isn't even an issue of black/white thinking, so much as it being a total non-sequitur.

Well, in the sense of "either she'll fuck anyone or no-one." 

[Hardkill]

6 hours ago, Squeekytoy said:

Yeah I don't even mean his approach to approach...

Just the logic alone that governs his thinking about this. Like if she's sexually liberated then she must want to instantly jump on my raging boner when I grope her out of the blue, or else what's the difference between that and a mormon lol. Or whatever he's thinking, I can't really tell at this point.

Alright, how about as a more reasonable compromise for my approach, I screen for DTF girls by asking if them what kind of porn or erotica they like. If they refuse to answer that then it's her lost, she's not comfortable with her sexuality, a prude, and time for me to move on to the next girl. Keep doing that process until I find one cool attractive girl who's not so uptight about sex. Fair enough?

Edited January 16 by Hardkill

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Squeekytoy said:

So you're not getting me. The way I see it, the first issue here is the underlying reasoning that you have for your ideas about approaching. It's your understanding that needs correction or else your actions can only ever be misinformed. More than that, your understanding itself is informed by nothing but your own agenda, although maybe that can't be helped. But in any case you need to get real about how things work or nothing is going to.

But I thought that as a man and a leader it is my duty to orchestrate the agenda and the woman is supposed to follow it right? Either she complies with it or I charge her to the game and keep on moving to another who's with me. I also shouldn't be apologizing for whom I am and what I want as a man.

[Leo Gura]

That's basically what experts PUAs do. They screen for girls who are DTF in many subtle ways. You don't need to grope her to screen for DTF.

This strategy is effective in certain contexts, like if you're in a huge nightclub with more girls than you will ever approach. But this strategy will have you missing out on many of the best girls because most of them will not be DTF.

It depends on your aims. If you just want a ONS vs if you're looking for gf material girls for something more serious. The higher quality girls will not be open to your sexually explicit approach. Drunk club sluts will be.

The most solid game is not sexually explicit because that turns off many of the best girls and comes off creepy.

It's important to learn the skill of being charming and subtle.

"Hey, wanna fuck?" is not good game.

Edited January 17 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's basically what experts PUAs do. They screen for girls who are DTF in many subtle ways. You don't need to grope her to screen for DTF.

This strategy is effective in certain contexts, like if you're in a huge nightclub with more girls than you will ever approach. But this strategy will have you missing out on many of the best girls because most of them will not be DTF.

It depends on your aims. If you just want a ONS vs if you're looking for gf material girls for something more serious. The higher quality girls will not be open to your sexually explicit approach. Drunk club sluts will be.

The most solid game is not sexually explicit because that turns off many of the best girls and comes off creepy.

It's important to learn the skill of being charming and subtle.

"Hey, wanna fuck?" is not good game.

Is that because most girls who are sober, even in a big nightclub, are still afraid of being slut-shamed or because it usually takes them longer than guys do to get horny or both?

Also, how come you said before that all girls at bar/club are fair game because all of them are DTF?

On 1/30/2020 at 9:10 PM, Leo Gura said:

When you go to a bar/club the whole point is that the girls there are DTF. Anyone in a bar/club is fair game. They aren't there for intellectual stimulation.

The best thing you can do for your game is move to a large city with lots of girls and good nightlife. You're not gonna get good with girls living in the countryside.

 

Edited January 17 by Hardkill