Hardkill

What will result from the world condemning Israel's war on Gaza?

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A lot of left-wingers and Pro-Palestine people have been saying that even if we won't be able to convince Israel to agree to a permanent ceasefire, we should still inspire the whole world to condemn the Israeli government for all of the mass killings and destruction they have caused. Already, most of the world wants Israel to stop and the amount of people all around the world who are condemning Israel is still growing. Will this mean that Israel will pay a heavy price for this in some major way?

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If you care about good results, you should ask for a fair condemnation with a co-operative approach.

A fair critisism on Israel can go like this ✏️📋

" 1. We suspect Israel acts not only out of a military necessity, but also cause an extra damage which doesn't help to fight hamas nor to protect its soldiers from hamas's fortifications, but rather costs civilians lives for nothing.

2. We know that the elimination of hamas is very important to the future of the Palestinians children in Gaza who been killed psychologically and maybe irreversibly from hamas education and indoctrination and need an urgent recovery plan, and to the Israelis too.

3. Therefore, we are not asking Israel to give out the war completely, because this is not a legitimate demand, but rather to invest more efforts, even if it is not easy given hamas interest to maximize civil casualties, to be as accurate and surgical in its actions as possible.

4. We are not just speak and preach because this is the easy part. But rather, we will work hard and think hard and invest some genuine effort by ourselve to create mechanisms that will ensure our demands from the IDF, because we really care about Gaza's situation therefore we will show this with our actions.

5. We are willing to talk openly with the Israelis as well as to listen with open mind to their traumas and legitimate concerns, and think together how to get closer and as fast as possible to our common goal. "

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🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you.

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It won't cause an identifiable shift, what it does do is subtle but very impactful, to varying degrees it imparts the anti imperialism sentiment unto all listeners, hopefully most significantly being political leaders of superpowers. Pair this with the Global support for Ukraine, and the exposure of American wrong doing in recent wars, it can push the Zeitgeist.

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On 1/12/2024 at 10:40 PM, Devin said:

It won't cause an identifiable shift, what it does do is subtle but very impactful, to varying degrees it imparts the anti imperialism sentiment unto all listeners, hopefully most significantly being political leaders of superpowers. Pair this with the Global support for Ukraine, and the exposure of American wrong doing in recent wars, it can push the Zeitgeist.

But what kind of shift could or would happen over time from this condemnation?

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It could help Israel to eventually wake up and push out their current leadership and start pursuing peace instead of indefinitely blocking a Palestinian state. 

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2 hours ago, Hardkill said:

But what kind of shift could or would happen over time from this condemnation?

I think it will grow the anti-imperialism sentiment.

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