Chakras do exist

[Yimpa]

17 minutes ago, zurew said:

Im planning to go through a territory that im not experienced/knowledgeable in, therefore I would rather take in the wisdom that others have who are more knowledgeable/experienced in this field  rather than just chaotically going through it and elevating the chance of fucking myself up in the end.

You’re assuming that masters have not gone through the latter.

[zurew]

52 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

What I saw in my minds eye was more real than the physical world. To get this experience I had taken magic mushrooms. 

What did you see while tripping and How did it feel like?

[Yimpa]

7 minutes ago, zurew said:

What did you see while tripping and How did it feel like?

Imagine looking at your hand and realizing that it’s the entire milky way galaxy. 

That’s only the tip of the iceberg. 

 

 

Edited January 15 by Yimpa

[StarStruck]

@Yimpa don’t ruin this thread pls 

[Yimpa]

To assume that holding the Milkey Way is less important than God is what ruins the Awakening process. 

[Davino]

On 12/1/2024 at 7:15 PM, zurew said:

Are you familiar with the idea of opening up 108 chakras?

I'm pretty familiar with all systems that aim to do so. In fact, many times I had the experience first and then had to research and find what teaching suited and explained this phenomena that was going on in me. This was the case with kundalini.

On 12/1/2024 at 7:15 PM, zurew said:

Also how many chakras have you opened up so far and what was your experience doing it?

This is just a strangely formulated question. It's not something you count. Like I've opened 73/108 or something like that. In fact, the whole process oscilates like life itself.

The basics: Opening the spine to the flow of energy. This goes by cycles, you open it and then you finish a whole process and maybe months afterwards you open them all again, completing another cycle and so on like this. It feels like cleaning a tube and making it ever more cristaline, luminous and etheric. Vegetarian or vegan food aids in this whole process, you don't have to deal with the contractions and life stored in the meat of the animal you are eating and plants don't have the properties to store that bio memory.

It all boils down to contracted sensation in your field of experience. Anything in your 360º awareness field that doesn't feel open, relaxed and awake is a "chakra" that is not spinning. You can also see it like knots in your body mind that you are undoing. This also goes by cycles of completion.

[Davino]

On 15/1/2024 at 9:00 PM, zurew said:

Could you handle the experience (By handling I mean , did the experience had such a big effect on you so that you couldn't do your normal everyday stuff for a couple of hours or days) ? Also how many days/month/years did it take to properly integrate the experience?

If you are working with Kundalini, life is gonna treat you pretty well, as you are worshipping the divine universal embodied energy within yourself. It is very grounded. After reaching a certain state of consciousness your cells start waking up, it's a very embodied reality. Kundalini can clean very deep conditionings in you and that can leat to very intense experiences but that feel good, medicine like.

 

On 15/1/2024 at 9:00 PM, zurew said:

I only had some kind of heart chakra opening experience. I don't know if it was fully open or not, but it was really profound. I felt a profound and deep connection to all beings in the universe and I could feel deep empathy for all of them without exception and the only thing you care about in that state is to serve and to give to others to the best of your ability without expecting or requiring anything in return (Because in that state you are completely fulfilled and you don't want to get/expect/take anything,  you just only want to give and contribute).

Don't intelectualise too much. It's femenine, it's feeling, emotional, energetic. Not masculine, squared, intellectual, trascendental.

This are frames I know but they are really helpful

On 15/1/2024 at 9:00 PM, zurew said:

Is there any program that you (or anyone who is reading this know of), that shows how to open up the chakras in a systematic way so it won't become too overwhelming?

Kriya yoga is the masculine approach and kundalini the femenine approach to the same reality awakening of the body.

I recommend first kundalini to shake and clean up everything. After some good years, you may start with kriya yoga.

This is the channel I like the most:

 

[Davino]

These video from the hindu system can give you some background

Here you can see an initiation of the Kundalini energy in real life. This is probably the easiest way to have your kundalini awakening. This is how I did it the first time, by a live 2 way video-conference with Nithyananda. That was the first triggering

Watch this video on psychedelics and you are gonna lose it, like the people there. Prove me wrong if you dare!

Edited January 16 by Davino

[zurew]

@Davino Ty for the detailed response

[BlueOak]

A laymans way to view it is.

In the human body there are places where a lot of activity takes place. The stomach, the mind, the sexual organs, the heart, the throat, the liver, the kidneys etc. These places use a lot of energy, or have a lot of energy pass through them for their day-to-day activities. The cleaner these are, the less full of toxins, getting the right nutrients, exercise etc, the more effectively they function, and the healthier you are.

That's how you can describe it to anyone who just sees a body. Then you can mention a physicist will tell you we are all energy vibrating very slowly. Then they can link in their mind an energetic chakra and a physical point on the body, which are the same thing.

If you want more sensation of this, developing body awareness and energetic awareness are good ideas. Yoga and meditation focusing on the body are very good ways to do it. Mantak Chia teaching Taoism was also excellent for me.

Edited January 17 by BlueOak

[Davino]

1 hour ago, BlueOak said:

Mantak Chia teaching Taoism was also excellent for me.

He is very good for anyone interested, thanks for saying it I forgot it!

It's another approach for the same reality. Taoism is very grounded and Mantak Chia is superb in what he does.

It's usually safer than hindu techniques but slower and less efficient. It feels more natural that for sure.

[Davino]

Taking triphala at night and a bit of neem powder in the morning can accelarate years the process also. 

Super efficient, technique from the ayurvedic branch, works wonders!

[vibv]

On 12.1.2024 at 5:26 PM, Hojo said:

@Davino yes leo is right everything is not real and its literally an entire fiction of your mind even chakra even spiritual even God because God can not be imagined.

reality is literally a dream and then another dream and I right now im stuck in one cause  I am identifying with it. Nothing in this dream is real except the dream. And same for you if you want.

Everything is real.

You thinking that it is all merely a dream is also a dream. There's no difference between dream and Reality. Reality is a dream and that dream is Reality. It's as real as it gets.

Forget all that bullshit about it being nothing but a dream – because you deeply misunderstood something there. It's not merely a dream. It's real to a degree you can't even comprehend.

It's all a dream, of course. But that dream is REAL.

Edited January 17 by vibv

[Ishanga]

4 hours ago, vibv said:

Everything is real.

You thinking that it is all merely a dream is also a dream. There's no difference between dream and Reality. Reality is a dream and that dream is Reality. It's as real as it gets.

Forget all that bullshit about it being nothing but a dream – because you deeply misunderstood something there. It's not merely a dream. It's real to a degree you can't even comprehend.

It's all a dream, of course. But that dream is REAL.

Agreed, dream, reality, imagination, on some levels its all the same, when You realize all experience happens only within You, nothing happens outside of You, then what is Real? Is the vivid dream You had last night real? Yes it is in your subjective experience which is really all You have, another does not have this specific dream like You but they have their own with the same intensity hopefully:) So the basic problem is ppl begin to intellectualize everything, intellect is a cutting and descernment tool good for Survival but not go to go beyond Survival level of Perception and Awareness, and they go on a dmt trip feel oneness, come back intellectualize it and feel they are  God, but which God are you, India alone has 33 million lol..., So this is Karma in play, your filters are on all the time, you filter what is going on within You because You are identified with things You are not, once You deal with that, Identify with the cosmos per say, then all of this goes away, a simple Sadhana, then the Chakras open up by themselves in a healthy way..

Edited January 17 by Ishanga

[Hojo]

@vibv you are not real, therefore everything you think and do is not real. Nothing is happening its just a dream that you are narrating. The dream is real but nothing is happening in the dream.  Ultimately nothing has happened and nothing is happening so when I say my chakra is popping off it dosent mean anything, literally the words I say have no meaning. We are in an empty void of nothing making shit up. Its like being in purgatory for so long you start dreaming to pretend to be out of purgatory. The only thing that exists is dream with 0 substance and 0 meaning.

You arent meant to have one dream where you are making everything up and another one where you think you are real. A human is just a tool that God uses to remember that its just dreaming. and the human itself is a dream. When the human realizes its the dream it can stop the human(dream) by returning to the (non human)dream by stopping self reflection that its a human. And then you can live life the way its supposed to be no thinking just dream and dream and never self reflect again never entering 'Reality" again. Reality is just a made up term.

You can have one word to use dream or reality take your pick on which one to use to describe it it cant be both.

Edited January 18 by Hojo

[vibv]

12 hours ago, Hojo said:

@vibv you are not real, therefore everything you think and do is not real. Nothing is happening its just a dream that you are narrating. The dream is real but nothing is happening in the dream.  Ultimately nothing has happened and nothing is happening so when I say my chakra is popping off it dosent mean anything, literally the words I say have no meaning. We are in an empty void of nothing making shit up. Its like being in purgatory for so long you start dreaming to pretend to be out of purgatory. The only thing that exists is dream with 0 substance and 0 meaning.

You arent meant to have one dream where you are making everything up and another one where you think you are real. A human is just a tool that God uses to remember that its just dreaming. and the human itself is a dream. When the human realizes its the dream it can stop the human(dream) by returning to the (non human)dream by stopping self reflection that its a human. And then you can live life the way its supposed to be no thinking just dream and dream and never self reflect again never entering 'Reality" again. Reality is just a made up term.

You can have one word to use dream or reality take your pick on which one to use to describe it it cant be both.

0 meaning is also infinite meaning.

Whatever you describe this as, it's wrong. It can't be explained or grasped. Everything you think you know is completely and totally wrong.

It can only be know by being it. That's the only way. All those words are nothing but empty shells.

Edited January 18 by vibv

[Davino]

@zurew I recommend you doing the wim hof breathing method in the afternoon (sunset best) and any kundalini yoga from that channel on the morning if you want a routine

[Davino]

On 17/1/2024 at 10:52 AM, Davino said:

Taoism is very grounded and Mantak Chia is superb in what he does.

It's usually safer than hindu techniques but slower and less efficient. It feels more natural that for sure.

For the record, I consider kundalini hindu techniches much better than taoist but I consider taoism sex years ahead from tantra in approachability

[Hojo]

@vibv I'm trying to put meaning on words and every response is that words mean both things. If we do this we dive into madness there must be structure. Dreams can't mean real just because they are opposites ultimately its true but we can't live like that in duality words must have meaning. I will not be pulled into chaos and madness my words have meaning.

Edited January 19 by Hojo

[Yimpa]

8 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@vibv I'm trying to put meaning on words and every response is that words mean both things. If we do this we dive into madness there must be structure. Dreams can't mean real just because they are opposites ultimately its true but we can't live like that in duality words must have meaning. I will not be pulled into chaos and madness my words have meaning.

Words and meaning can expand. You have the power to create new meaning.