ivankiss

Why YOU can't be GOD.

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2 minutes ago, thierry said:

Sounds like projection to me 

I don't have religious trauma myself but I've seen online many do, and some say it's because of all the fearmongering that was instilled in them about who God is and what he'll do to you if you don't obey and or fear him.

BTW, everything is a projection. Thats what we are, projecting machines.

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10 minutes ago, thierry said:

Sounds like projection to me 

Fear God? That ain’t awakening 


 "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver

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Ah, yes. Just like a movie projector. Even if I were to punch the screen, the hole movie would still be playing. Even if the whole movie theater burned down, there would still be other copies of the same movie. Even if there weren’t any other copies of that movie, let’s all drive to another movie theater and see a new movie.


I AM Lovin' It

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I’m all for a fun movie. That just ain’t the full Truth.

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27 minutes ago, thierry said:

I do not know if you are or are not God. All I know is that no matter how Awakened you are you should fear God. If you do not fear God, you certainly ain’t Awake.

I fear God because I know that any deviation from the truth will result in suffering and I prefer to avoid it if possible. suffering in the sense of distancing myself from myself and entering alienated states

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Just now, Breakingthewall said:

I fear God because I know that any deviation from the truth will result in suffering and I prefer to avoid it if possible.

There might be more suffering if you go directly at God than if you intelligently avoid 

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42 minutes ago, thierry said:

There might be more suffering if you go directly at God than if you intelligently avoid 

 The closer you are to true nature, the more beauty, harmony and meaning your life has. God is not something foreign, it is reality

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50 minutes ago, thierry said:

There might be more suffering if you go directly at God than if you intelligently avoid 

Could be true, 

Better off going slowly, maturely and consciously.

Awakening to God done properly is the highest beauty imaginable. 
 

But, it’s work. It’s not easy. There should be healthy caution, healthy fear. 
 

But, you need not fear God. Fear your own lack of intelligence and consciousness.

Also, do your due diligence and decide what you want.

God, Awakening etc isn’t for everyone. 

I’ve paid the price in the past for my own foolishness, desperate desire to know, to understand, to awaken. 
 

I’ve burned in the fire of my newbie  fantasy 

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Losing the rope to let other feel you with hope ♥️

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@Thought Art  

I don't doubt that your path is correct and your evolution is real, but maybe you should empty your mind of acquired ideas, they are obstacles. the mind must be completely empty.

 

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17 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Thought Art  

I don't doubt that your path is correct and your evolution is real, but maybe you should empty your mind of acquired ideas, they are obstacles. the mind must be completely empty.

That’s like asking a waterfall to stop being wet.


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@ivankiss if there isn't you there is no God. But luckily there Absolutely is You. 

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There's a reason that he says this people. The YOU he refers to is the ego, and the ego very intelligently co-opts ownership over awareness, over consciousness, and as a result sometimes you have to speak the way he does. But make no mistake God is also the ego, what do you think constructed the ego? God created the ego, and its God that will have to awaken from its slumber that it is not the ego.

The problem? God is the greatest actor, the greatest performer, the greatest creator of all time. When God plays pretend, it completely fools itself. How? Because of the power of love. God loves its performance so much it takes it very seriously and is completely bought in, and this is what we call your life. 

One exercise you can do to deconstruct is to see your ego as an artificial intelligence that is masking the authentic intelligence that lurks within. After all God is pure authenticity.


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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@Razard86 im clearly not refering to the ego. I'm referring to what you absolutely are. 

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37 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

There's a reason that he says this people. The YOU he refers to is the ego, and the ego very intelligently co-opts ownership over awareness, over consciousness, and as a result sometimes you have to speak the way he does. But make no mistake God is also the ego, what do you think constructed the ego? God created the ego, and its God that will have to awaken from its slumber that it is not the ego.

The problem? God is the greatest actor, the greatest performer, the greatest creator of all time. When God plays pretend, it completely fools itself. How? Because of the power of love. God loves its performance so much it takes it very seriously and is completely bought in, and this is what we call your life. 

One exercise you can do to deconstruct is to see your ego as an artificial intelligence that is masking the authentic intelligence that lurks within. After all God is pure authenticity.

The problem is you're the greatest actor. 

That's what self deception / dreaming is. 

But have you stopped acting?

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On 1/10/2024 at 6:31 PM, ivankiss said:

Read very carefully. This is so simple and straightforward that it will probably fly over your head. The importance of it, however, cannot be stressed enough.

YOU cannot ever be GOD.

There is no space for YOU in GOD.

If there is YOU, there is no GOD.

If there is GOD, there is no YOU.

If there is you, there is also I. There is them too. There is this and there is that. There is here and there is over there.

Can you see how none of that can be GOD?

Only GOD can be GOD. And is.

GOD is not an identity. Not an entity. Not a place in time. Not an activity or an appearance.

It is Pure Being. Pure Isness. Pure Consciousness. 

Nothing more or less.

It cannot be pointed towards, because the finger that's doing the pointing is also it. There is nothing but it in existence. YOU cannot be it, because YOU are a defined, limited, finite construct. And GOD is undefined, limitless and infinite.

YOU cannot be GOD because the finite cannot be the infinite.

What you can do, is realize that the deeper you're willing to let go of yourself, of this YOU character... the more of GOD there will be.

PERFECT.


Rationality is Stupidity, Love is Rationality

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3 hours ago, JoshB said:

@Razard86 im clearly not refering to the ego. I'm referring to what you absolutely are. 

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I was talking about ivankiss....I swear people on the forum do not carefully read. And yes I've woken up I'm only here to share at this point.


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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28 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

I was talking about ivankiss....I swear people on the forum do not carefully read. And yes I've woken up I'm only here to share at this point.

Shii my bad, hope all is well though. 

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