If only the top 20% of men are attractive to women, what are the 80% doing?

[Yimpa]

@Emotionalmosquito Long dick bias.

[kamwalker]

8 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

There is a severe population crisis 

The important part of that first one starts around the 7 minute mark 

Yes! Exactly. That’s why it’s so annoying how people keep saying hot girls end up with ugly guys all the time. If anything you see more of the opposite. I think the  reason people say that is to motivate us to get out of our comfort zones and start living life in order to get us on better standing in general, even though that motivation is based on false hope. Any time u see an attractive woman, its not hard to point out who her boyfriend is if he’s there. 9.9 times out of ten he’ll be the tall, ripped chad. 

I had a hottie in yoga pants tell me her bf was 6’4. This was while I was wearing my shoe lifts which give me an extra 2.5 inches of height putting me around 6’

I'm aware of the apparent future population decline due to people not having kids at the replacement rate. But it has very little if anything to do with males being unattractive to women. Without doing any research my best guess is people are generally just more selfish now. I don't mean that in a bad way. I just mean people are prioritizing what is best for themselves. If they make just enough money to sustain themselves they don't want to undergo unnecessary financial stress to care for another life. Social gatherings also aren't seen as necessary as many people choose to stay home and use modern technology to satisfy their needs whether it's a dopamine or social desire. The problem is you can't procreate through a screen. 

Also there's nothing wrong with the hot woman being with the Chad. Why should the average to ugly guy get the hot girl? If that happens it should be seen as a fluke. It's not the norm. Physically unattractive people date other physically unattractive people, average looking people date other average looking people, and hot people date other hot people. 

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

Also pew research center 

That's what happens when you spend half your life playing video games, watching anime, and hanging out on Reddit.

[Yimpa]

5 minutes ago, kamwalker said:

The problem is you can't procreate through a screen. 

You lack vision, my friend 

I meet my partner I met online in real life in a couple weeks

Edited January 21 by Yimpa

[AmandaPanda]

2 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

You lack vision, my friend 

I meet my partner I met online in real life in a couple weeks

Congrats and well wishes for y’all 🫶

[AmandaPanda]

22 minutes ago, kamwalker said:

I'm aware of the apparent future population decline due to people not having kids at the replacement rate. But it has very little if anything to do with males being unattractive to women. Without doing any research my best guess is people are generally just more selfish now. I don't mean that in a bad way. I just mean people are prioritizing what is best for themselves. If they make just enough money to sustain themselves they don't want to undergo unnecessary financial stress to care for another life. Social gatherings also aren't seen as necessary as many people choose to stay home and use modern technology to satisfy their needs whether it's a dopamine or social desire. The problem is you can't procreate through a screen. 

Also there's nothing wrong with the hot woman being with the Chad. Why should the average to ugly guy get the hot girl? If that happens it should be seen as a fluke. It's not the norm. Physically unattractive people date other physically unattractive people, average looking people date other average looking people, and hot people date other hot people. 

I understand that men are visual and want someone hot, but the lack of awareness about one’s own “hotness” (which is generally defined more by your hygiene and social status ability to provide, aka things that can be changed) is wild. The whole incel attitude is an instant pussy dehydrator.

 

Like I am highly sought after in my area as an “attractive single” but I know I’m not gonna get into a relationship with a movie star looker because I’m not one. I want someone with matching stretch marks and acne scars that can give my flat foot a real good massage. I’m not out here ignoring reality or blaming others because I can’t get a rich man to pay my way or a hot chick to let me suckle her teet. 

Time to stop watching so much porn for some of y'all and grow up a bit. 

Also statistics are great but always skewed and remember “direct experience is king” 🩷🩷🙏

 

Edited January 21 by AmandaPanda

[kamwalker]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

You lack vision, my friend 

I meet my partner I met online in real life in a couple weeks

...So you are leaving the house to meet this person in real life. That's exactly my point. Most people are sitting at home jerking off to pixels or swiping on people's photos they will never meet in real life. 

[Jacquelope]

On 1/7/2024 at 4:28 AM, MarkKol said:

What? Where did you get that metric from? 80% of men have a girlfriend or wife, It’s the 20% that doesn’t. 

Over 60% of young men are single and girlfriendless.

And let's face it, if you're part of that lower 80% eventually a woman will date and may even marry you. But that ain't gonna last long and if it is, it's not going to be happy for long. Dead bedrooms hit far more marriages than infidelity or divorce.

On 1/13/2024 at 4:10 PM, Tboy said:

this is perfect, strongly agree. If men are not turning inward to understand their traumas and finding techniques to heal them - they will project all the desperation caused by the traumas onto women. If men loved/accepted themselves, they wouldn't have a hard time loving/accepting and thus attracting women. The guys who are dicks that attract women appear to have this self love for themselves from the confidence they show but are actually fucked up and terrible partners, not what women truly want

Okay it's not like women aren't stricken with these same traumas, poor self-esteem, lack of confidence, and other unhealed issues. Basically what we have is men having to come with no outward trauma and all his issues resolved... but in so many (but not all) cases he's hauling her baggage.

Why do men have to haul women's emotional baggage but not the other way around?

[Yimpa]

3 hours ago, kamwalker said:

...So you are leaving the house to meet this person in real life. That's exactly my point. Most people are sitting at home jerking off to pixels or swiping on people's photos they will never meet in real life. 

They’re coming into my house. We built up this momentum for weeks; we had to explore difficult & emotional conversations to really feel if we are compatible with each other. It’s not easy for us to just meet each other in-person regularly since we live 2 hours away from each other. Despite that, it’s truly amazing how we were able to develop deep connections in unconventional ways (many of which I could explain, but truly being in love transcends the logic of how to fall in love). 

[Jacquelope]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

They’re coming into my house. We built up this momentum for weeks; we had to explore difficult & emotional conversations to really feel if we are compatible with each other. It’s not easy for us to just meet each other in-person regularly since we live 2 hours away from each other. Despite that, it’s truly amazing how we were able to develop deep connections in unconventional ways (many of which I could explain, but truly being in love transcends the logic of how to fall in love). 

Grats! I met my wife on Match. Thank God we were ~15 miles apart plus gasoline was $1.50 a gallon. Which dating site was it, if I may ask?

[Yimpa]

2 minutes ago, Jacquelope said:

Grats! I met my wife on Match. Thank God we were ~15 miles apart plus gasoline was $1.50 a gallon. Which dating site was it, if I may ask?

Bumble. We met on the BFF section, not the dating section. Not everything goes out as planned.

[Jacquelope]

23 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Bumble. We met on the BFF section, not the dating section. Not everything goes out as planned.

Good to see at least one of the apps work for some. Best of luck!

[Leo Gura]

Walmart needs to make a dating app. Uniting the bottom of the gene pool.

Edited January 22 by Leo Gura

[Sempiternity]

25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Walmart needs to make a dating app. Uniting the bottom of the gene pool.

 

[Leo Gura]

[Emotionalmosquito]

10 hours ago, kamwalker said:

But it has very little if anything to do with males being unattractive to women.

But we should also keep this in mind https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/dating/marriage-rates-decline-reason-economically-attractive-men-jobs-income-a9098956.html

Apparently now that women are outperforming us in college and getting better degrees, it’s making it much harder for them to find a man who can be the top bread winner, which is what they so desperately want. Instead of lowering their expectations to something more realistic, we’re being blamed for making less than 80k/year.

While there are virtually no articles at all focusing on women’s shortcomings and how they can be better for us, and that is no accident.

However, in support of what you said about people being more selfish, towards the end the article says:

“It’s also possible that many people are now prioritising other things over getting married, such as education, starting a family, buying a house and going travelling. This could also be a reason for the rising average age of marriage.”

10 hours ago, kamwalker said:

Also there's nothing wrong with the hot woman being with the Chad. Why should the average to ugly guy get the hot girl? If that happens it should be seen as a fluke. It's not the norm. Physically unattractive people date other physically unattractive people, average looking people date other average looking people, and hot people date other hot people. 

This is very true and I understand that. I just wish people would stop saying it’s so easy for ugly guys to get hotter girls that it happens often. It clearly doesn’t.

I would be richer than a millionaire if I had someone close to my same body weight and facial attractiveness, no need for a supermodel. Problem is, that girl would have vastly more sexual selection than I do. Because in addition to being a certain looks threshold, we also have to meet a whole host of other criteria. The girl just has to look somewhat decent and automatically she has hundreds of options, at least. Most men nowadays are so starved we don’t give a single microscopic fuck how much money a girl makes or how charismatic she is or her social status.

14 hours ago, Squeekytoy said:

Wut....

You wearing high heals now?  

Maybe you could sharpen your jawline too with some eyeliner.

Still trying to fix everything everywhere except the actual cause. And only looking for evidence to support your narratives.

Pretty much. They’re like extra padding you put in your boots to give some extra height. 

I know that changing my personality and dealing with traumas and all that is what would make the biggest difference, but looking taller is still helpful. It’s abundantly obvious that women prefer taller rather than shorter guys, practically all of them do. I usually notice better reactions in women I approach when I’m wearing them. Of course they don’t make a big enough difference by themselves but they certainly help.

[Girzo]

19 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

I had a hottie in yoga pants tell me her bf was 6’4. This was while I was wearing my shoe lifts which give me an extra 2.5 inches of height putting me around 6’

Americans are so stupid sometimes. This is totally a cultural thing, not a law of nature.

At least if you have had based units of height like centimeteres, but the US population obsesses about some absurd feet qnd inches.

[Raze]

20 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

 

I had a hottie in yoga pants tell me her bf was 6’4. This was while I was wearing my shoe lifts which give me an extra 2.5 inches of height putting me around 6’

That’s an obvious shit test.

[MarkKol]

8 hours ago, Jacquelope said:

Over 60% of young men are single and girlfriendless.

Maybe it’s the difference between countries because mine is probably poorer therefore more social than yours, It might also be that I’m ignorant of the city life in developed nations, but that still seems unrealistically high. I don't really believe it.

Every man is a vessel for attraction, which means, no matter how he looks, what and who he is, if he says and does the right things he can be attractive to women.

[Emotionalmosquito]

On 1/22/2024 at 1:05 AM, MarkKol said:

if he says and does the right things he can be attractive to women.

Yes that’s exactly right. You have to know how to SAY and DO the right things. That’s outer game and it is your most powerful tool for getting lots of quick lays.

People have been saying inner game is what’s more important. Then at the same time they also say you need thousands of girls to practice on before you can get the hang of how to get laid. That’s funny, because if inner game was the more important one then why can’t you start having sex just from improving that? It’s because you still need the outer game, and the doing thousands of approaches is all about fine tuning that outer game. You can have the best inner game ever but girls will still think you’re weird or boring or, worst of all, creepy if you make one small mistake which could be as benign as saying a wrong thing or doing an uncalibrated body language cue due to insufficiently established outer game.