Max1993

No Self Simply Explained!

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This is just an example but it really helps me so perhaps this may help others. If the Big Bang created this universe but had occurred in a different way let's say, that would obviously lead you to make different choices right? So if you follow the breadcrumb trail of your current thoughts backwards through time, in a sense you can say that the Big Bang had absolute will or more free will than you as it pushed the dominos to influence your will right now. 

If your thoughts right now are just the result of this domino effect, that means your thoughts and actions simply cannot be independent of this process. Even the moment you sit down to meditate, that is a process pre-ordained by the universe billions of years ago (there is no time but let's think in terms of causality). Not having free will does not mean that each thought and action won't evolve for the better, your thoughts and actions will evolve for the better I personally gurentee this. which is why we must trust the process and trust the universe. (You)niverse.

You cannot actually intervene here, if you reach your hand out and try to change something here, that too has been preordained. 

In a sense you have never even done anything as you are not the "doer" or the original pusher of the dominoes. Imagine a self aware movie or a virtual reality mask but without anyone actually wearing the mask! 

You are just left to surrender and observe while you are free-falling, even while you are reading this post. As God you have absolute will but right now you are not reading. Reading is simply happening! So trust. trust. trust. Of course the big bang is just a backstory and there is no time, however this is just an analogy that helps me. So sit in silence a little each day, trip a little, and enjoy the show! Nobody is watching it. The show itself is the body, the show itself is the self, without a self. The chair is empty. Does this make sense?

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@cetus Your seal of approval really means a lot! If Leo approves this as well, it would really make my day. I am seeking validation as this little boy that I am so sue me :) 

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One picture is worth a thousand words.

Keep up the good work. For all it's worth I think you're on to something.

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Directly outside your skull is the big bang.  The big bang is infinite potential and its happening right now. Your body just filters things out so you can see things in the light of the big bang. Right outside your body is just pure white light.

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@Hojo Yes! What you wrote is still compatible with what I said here, beautiful... 

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36 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Right outside your body is just pure white light.

 It's like the singularity had a huge cosmic orgasm of white light which condensed into 10,000 things. 

* My avatar is a "star nursery" doing exactly that. -Condensing.

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2 hours ago, Max1993 said:

This is just an example but it really helps me so perhaps this may help others. If the Big Bang created this universe but had occurred in a different way let's say, that would obviously lead you to make different choices right? So if you follow the breadcrumb trail of your current thoughts backwards through time, in a sense you can say that the Big Bang had absolute will or more free will than you as it pushed the dominos to influence your will right now. 

If your thoughts right now are just the result of this domino effect, that means your thoughts and actions simply cannot be independent of this process. Even the moment you sit down to meditate, that is a process pre-ordained by the universe billions of years ago (there is no time but let's think in terms of causality). Not having free will does not mean that each thought and action won't evolve for the better, your thoughts and actions will evolve for the better I personally gurentee this. which is why we must trust the process and trust the universe. (You)niverse.

You cannot actually intervene here, if you reach your hand out and try to change something here, that too has been preordained. 

In a sense you have never even done anything as you are not the "doer" or the original pusher of the dominoes. Imagine a self aware movie or a virtual reality mask but without anyone actually wearing the mask! 

You are just left to surrender and observe while you are free-falling, even while you are reading this post. As God you have absolute will but right now you are not reading. Reading is simply happening! So trust. trust. trust. Of course the big bang is just a backstory and there is no time, however this is just an analogy that helps me. So sit in silence a little each day, trip a little, and enjoy the show! Nobody is watching it. The show itself is the body, the show itself is the self, without a self. The chair is empty. Does this make sense?

Great post!


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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You're trying to intellectualize your way into a condition that needs direct insight.

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For me any Awakening that deny the Direct Exeperience here now and Actual is not worth my time (Well I just used "my" and "time") just to see how tricky is language. So what I want to say is that the Actual exeperience here writing text with these physical finger must be, because is actually what is here now. I always start my meditation from here. Yes some meanderings during the day playing around with concepts, lost in daily drama here and there but coming back to this on and on. The ideia is not getting bored of this. 

So, this sensory being I am, body with all its intricate functions and all. 

Think about your body rigth now.

If I would ask you to build it from zero, how would you start?

No, nothing of coming back in time to you moms belly, I am talking about you , now, moving, seeing, sniffing, tasting,hearing, feeling this sense of distances, heavy, pain, plesure, thoughs, emotions .. HOW? How would you re-built yourself? Every bit?

I am incapable, If I dissolved now, I our my ego my "I" sense have no ideia to how to built a human body? And still here I am.

So now imagine empty space and nobody there with no instructions to how to built anything. 

For Who this sort of "something" would ask instructions to buillt "stuff" 

Inteligence from WHO? Permission from WHO?

When a machine is ready built is easy to dismantle and see how was built, you get the manual and rebuilt.

But How do you dismantle a machine that dont even exists yet? How you put together a machine that dont exists yet?

We dont even know how to built a brain without appealing to inserting our dicks onto a vagina and 9 months later a whole new brand brainy creature is there crying. 

Where does the "personhood" enter in all this process?

Before even start cognizing, reflecting, concdptualizing you mus first come to BE. 

My whole quest is How this moment here , now is being  held as it is, not past not future but this ongoing NOWNESSING, not static now but a flowing now, no cuts , self existing.  I am this intelligence working and I dont have a small clue of how I would remake it again since I am in the middle of it , USURPING of it without knowing the intricated threads that hold it together.

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The self is the one to whom things can be given or taken away. The non-self is the one to whom nothing can be given or taken away.

disconnecting the self is meditation. true meditation is not silence, it is openness

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@UnbornTao Of course! However to those that get stuck with nonduality, no self, and no free will, I believe my explanation is a bit refreshed, however I agree, language is never the truth... 

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4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

You're trying to intellectualize your way into a condition that needs direct insight.

The irony is that this is also an intellectual insight.


Know thyself....

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4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

You're trying to intellectualize your way into a condition that needs direct insight.

🎯


Describe a thought.

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Posted (edited)

10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The irony is that this is also an intellectual insight.

Sure, I'm not invalidating intellect as a whole. 

It could also be an observation.

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3 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Sure, I'm not invalidating intellect as a whole. 

It could also be an observation.

Yeah, it was an observational insight. 😜


Know thyself....

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