Hopeless incels support group

[meta_male]

7 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

This “being myself” horse shit is not fucking cutting it. It’s either be a nervous wreck or be incredibly mean.

That's not being yourself. Most people haven't learned what it means to be yourself.

[Emotionalmosquito]

1 hour ago, meta_male said:

That's not being yourself. Most people haven't learned what it means to be yourself.

I know exactly what it means. It means talk about what you like, use humor you think is funny and act authentically as the person you are. Doesn’t work 

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

I know exactly what it means. It means talk about what you like, use humor you think is funny and act authentically as the person you are. Doesn’t work 

If you're confused, look at the others.
They are you.

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

If you're confused, look at the others.
They are you.

So, if they are you, there are no others to look at.

[MarkKol]

Getting a girlfriend is pretty easy if you have some friends to go out with.

You don't need a support group, don't make an identity out of being an incel.

Edited January 27 by MarkKol

[Israfil]

15 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

So you did try being the asshole. Did it get you laid or no?

I am quite certain I would be the special case. Every time I imagine myself being such an abusive piece of shit to women that it ruins their mood, I feel oh so alive! Hey, at least then I wouldn’t be seeking validation, because that’s supposedly the number 1 chick repellent. I also wouldn’t be a creep.  Because creeps don’t go out with the soul intention of being a vibe killing prick.

For me, it’s come down to only one of two options: Be a timid, nervous, little bitch during my approaches, or, learn to be a total monster. We’re talking wife and child beating alcoholic levels of toxic but without the physical violence. Like making them feel terrible in any and every way available and using horrifyingly dark humor that’s worse than anything they’ve ever heard. 

This “being myself” horse shit is not fucking cutting it. It’s either be a nervous wreck or be incredibly mean. As much as I’d like to, I simply have no access to anything else. Being an ass is better than being a pussy, so all I can do is play the best cards I have.

Jordan Peterson is a controversial figure but one thing he says that I like is the importance of having the ability to unleash your inner monster.

By this you meant lost cause as in never being able to find happiness, not not being able to get laid, correct? I sure hope so 

Man, analyze the way you speak.

You are completely lost in a distorted worldview. You have no experience in relating with other people, yet you feel capacitated to pick and choose the parts of advice that suit your framing. Be more open to the world, man. You're trying to shield yourself from the pain and that's hurting you even more. 

As I said, if you have the illusion that you must play this bad boy character to achieve what you want, go ahead and do it. Life will teach you through your experiences.

Understand the two most important things in my advice: first, you don't know yourself. You haven't developed enough to have the true confidence and presence to attract people to your life. You say "be yourself is horse shit", but you are miles away from understanding what "being yourself" is. 

And second, if you still refuse to do advice #1 and go ahead and try all the different bullshit people tell you to do on the internet, follow advice from grifters, keep having these daydreams about abusing women, etc. you'll only find yourself more frustrated in the end. The physical act of sex won't do anything to fill the void you're feeling. You will actually be more frustrated, because the hope you placed in "having sex will solve my life" will prove to be the illusion that it is.

You're traumatized and misogynistic. Sex won't solve this. You seek the validation you were denied in your youth and you feel entitled to. Unless you face this trauma head-on, no amount of different stimuli, including sex and forum discussions will take you to a place of satisfaction.

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, MarkKol said:

Getting a girlfriend is pretty easy if you have some friends to go out with.

You don't need a support group, don't make an identity out of being an incel.

What do you think your advice of "friends to go out with" is. It's a support group. Same thing. Just another kind. Different labelling.

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

So, if they are you, there are no others to look at.

[MarkKol]

22 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

What do you think your advice of "friends to go out with" is. It's a support group. Same thing. Just another kind. Different labelling.

Call it what you want, friends are people to have fun with.

[Princess Arabia]

19 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Looking at me?

[Schizophonia]

51 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Looking at me?

Of course 

Now give me want your panties and some duckanoos !

edit : It's true that you don't have one, well it will be the dress, whip whip*

 

Edited January 27 by Schizophonia

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Of course 

Now give me want your panties and some duckanoos !

edit : It's true that you don't have one, well it will be the dress, whip whip*

 

Behave. 

[Emotionalmosquito]

Did an approach yesterday on two 7.5s by my city’s standards. Needless to say I had a bad day to put things lightly. I showed them a silly Minecraft video asking if they’ve ever seen something like that in a playful attempt to get a convo going. Lo and behold, I was given the infamous gray rock treatment before they briskly walked away. I did learn from it though. More like it reminded me what I already knew. A painful reminder of why I have oceans within oceans of resentment for these wretched fucking shit goblins. It’s always the same shit with exceptions being few and far between. 

This pissed me off so immensely somebody had to pay. So I went to Walmart looking to say something very disturbing (but not threatening) to some other girls. I didn’t find any as good as before but I did find something even better; an attractive man and woman couple. Long story short I told them the unspeakable, like the kind of thing that would get you perma-banned from any comedy club or social media site. It was something I claimed to have heard someone tell me had happened to them in the past, and that I had started wanking off to the thought of.

I should probably remove this desire to bring others people’s moods down to my level and improve my own if wanna start getting dates. But the addiction to being the vibe killer has become all powerful. No matter how good I’m feeling or how much I’ve improved or whatever progress towards forgiveness I might’ve made, the moment they give me the gray rock treatment yet again, what little love and positivity I managed to recover during my time off gets completely eviscerated putting me right back at square one. I can’t stand it. Like why not do literally anything else? Tell me a funny story from your past, tell me something else, make fun of me, be bitchy, be weird, make animal noises, cry, fart, start cracking up, at this point I’d prefer just about anything else besides these ongoing reactions of unresponsiveness and fleeing.

I was eaten alive last night with ungodly amounts of stress. Made it almost impossible to eat anything or sleep at all, which is detrimental because my sleep schedule and appetite has already gone to hell in a hand bag. Every time something like this or worse happens, for the next few nights or week or so, every time I start drifting off to sleep the memory pops back in to assault my mind and tense up my body like mini cortisol electrocutions. I had to use that meditation technique of telling yourself to temporarily let it go because you can always pick it right back up later or tomorrow. Even then it barely helped.

I have no idea what to do or how to break this addiction to being an energy vampire. If things continue this way I’ll no longer have the least bit of desire to break the cycle.

Edited January 28 by Emotionalmosquito

[Emotionalmosquito]

16 hours ago, Israfil said:

Understand the two most important things in my advice: first, you don't know yourself. You haven't developed enough to have the true confidence and presence to attract people to your life. You say "be yourself is horse shit", but you are miles away from understanding what "being yourself" is. 

And second, if you still refuse to do advice #1 and go ahead and try all the different bullshit people tell you to do on the internet, follow advice from grifters, keep having these daydreams about abusing women, etc. you'll only find yourself more frustrated in the end. The physical act of sex won't do anything to fill the void you're feeling. You will actually be more frustrated, because the hope you placed in "having sex will solve my life" will prove to be the illusion that it is.

I’m open to that. Not too fond of it, but I’m at least willing to give it a shot IF you can give me a simple 1 2 3 technique to do that. Give me a button that heals traumas and I’ll push it. I could do ayahuasca because that might be the closest thing to a button that heals traumas, but then it’ll just put me through hells beyond my comprehension in the process of burning out all my accumulated negativity before I can come out better on the other side. Please understand, I’m a massive pussy these days, I’m not prepared to handle something that intense. I could do it the longer way by doing daily shadow work and workshops and therapy and meditation, but I do not have the emotional fortitude or discipline to see it all the way through going that route. How am I supposed to procure those tools?

16 hours ago, Israfil said:

You say "be yourself is horse shit", but you are miles away from understanding what "being yourself" is. 

Then why the hell do people constantly spout that meme like it’s universally applicable to all? To those of us who aren’t anywhere close to being in a place where we can “be ourselves” it sounds like nothing more than an insult at best.

16 hours ago, Israfil said:

The physical act of sex won't do anything to fill the void you're feeling. You will actually be more frustrated, because the hope you placed in "having sex will solve my life" will prove to be the illusion that it is.

I’m not convinced of that. It makes sense how it would be true but I’ll never be sure until I start getting it. And I’m not expecting it to one hundred percent fix me, but I know for a fact it will help. I know this because the few times in the past when I’ve had female interest and affection I felt fucking incredible for months following. I imagine full on sex to be an amazingly, wondrously beautiful explosion of love that perfectly unites the physical with the metaphysical. I won’t know just how much it can help until start having plenty. Only then can I finally move on in life. 

16 hours ago, Israfil said:

You're traumatized and misogynistic.

Indeed I have become quite the misogynist, unfortunately. Even when that gets cured, what about the widespread misandry that in fact is what is causing the misogyny in most men? We still won’t be able to ignore that. And I’ll never be able to make peace with it because it’s completely unfair and unjust how men are so heavily disadvantaged and stripped of everything in divorces and how they get dragged through the mud and ruined by a single false accusation of sexual assault or domestic violence. 

If I were to suddenly get married tomorrow, she could divorce me and legally force me to start working so I can pay her alimony with the threat of incarceration looming over me if I don’t. Is that fair? Could I make her work to pay me alimony if I divorced her? Definitely not, and for no other reason than the fact that I’m the male and she’s the female. 

Edited January 28 by Emotionalmosquito

[Emotionalmosquito]

I don’t think I’ve ever resonated with any song more than this one. Just change the narrative of being cheated on by one woman to endless rejection from all and it’s perfect 

2:40 “I hate you! I swear to god I hate you! Oh my god, I love you! How the fuck could you do this to me?!”

That one bar says it all 

[thierry]

33 minutes ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

I don’t think I’ve ever resonated with any song more than this one. Just change the narrative of being cheated on by one woman to endless rejection from all and it’s perfect 

2:40 “I hate you! I swear to god I hate you! Oh my god, I love you! How the fuck could you do this to me?!”

That one bar says it all 

-l-o-n-g—l-o-n-e-l-y—s-uF-fE-r-i-n-g—w-i-t-o-u-t—A-n-d-r-e-w—t-a-t-e—l-i-k-e—r-e-a-c-t-i-o-n——>

 

[Chosen144]

On 01/01/2024 at 1:35 PM, Emotionalmosquito said:

Those of you who are at the lowest point of your entire life, anyone who gets chewed up and spit out by the ruthlessness of human nature at every single attempt to acquire a girl, anyone who feels absolutely destroyed far beyond any possible hope of repair due to your crippling inability to gain any dating experience, get in here and tell me your story. Feel free to get angry and blow off some of that steam you have bursting at the seams.

We need to remind each other we’re not alone.

People often tell me they’ve been where I’m at; that they’ve faced the same challenges I’m facing. Perhaps they have, but one look at just how bleak my situation is gives me serious doubts.

Have you guys who’ve “been there” really ever fallen this far into the pits of mental hell? Have you felt like every last ounce of good vibe or positivity has been sucked out of you every time you come home from a night out, or spent most of your time feeling that way even without going out? Have you ever been to the point where the happiest thoughts you can think is for women and happy couples to be brought to the same level of misery as you? Because I’m there now.

I love this scene from Hereditary 

Always brings a tear to my eye. This is the best depiction I’ve ever seen of the inner agony of being a hard stuck incel. Of course I’ve never lost a child so it may not be identically the same, but it’s damn close. I know that feeling when I see it, especially when it’s done this well.

Just throw in some rage of a thousand gods of chaos in addition to the devastating sadness and there you have it.

I know how it feels, I was member of the blackpill/incel community once and even hung out in a forum for a while. I was never even ugly, I just struggled fitting in and being popular. I would say lose your virginity, so you can stop feeling sorry for yourself, and then once you’ve done so and it’s off your back. Then you can focus on the other aspects of your life (mental, financial, physical, spiritual etc). Listen to Subliminals, binaruals etc (this quite literally helped me lose my virginity). Change how you talk about yourself and your identity and it will slowly form into your 3D reality. I need you to truly believe in the spiritual concepts you’ve taught yourself over the years and utilise them. There are many ways to slowly teach yourself hard concepts aswell if you feel you’re not intelligent enough to start a business. For me, it’s just lack of focus and concentration but there are dozens of videos on how to dopamine detox, meditate etc to strengthen your attention span. 
 

never limit yourself… your biggest enemy is always your mind. I know you feel bad for yourself, like everyone in the world has experienced sex and you’re the only one that hasn’t. And you can’t focus on other parts of your life because of that one craving, assume it will happen, let go and trust the universe, those Subliminals etc 

are you a physicallu unattractive short guy or are did you just have trouble socialising and being seen as weird by peers like me? 

[Chosen144]

On 15/01/2024 at 0:50 PM, Emotionalmosquito said:

Being a miserable asshole sitting on a mountain of gold is a far lesser form of suffering than being a miserable asshole who’s also flat broke. Same goes for having women.

Most of why I hate them at the moment is because they hate me, more specifically because they refuse to get with me despite my best efforts. Not only that but they also go out of their way to complain about me when I say something wrong or lack calibration. As if lacking calibration is the same as harassment. It’s like a simple “no thank you” isn’t good enough, they also have to cause me trouble. 

So that much could be ameliorated by learning the outer game techniques to no longer make the mistakes that are causing them to freak out.

The other reason for the bad blood comes from observing how they act in relationships. Stuff like showing pictures of their friends to their bf and demanding him to be completely honest about which ones he thinks are the hottest while promising she won’t be mad. Then getting mad when he tells the truth. Stuff like getting offended when he looks at other girls but he’s not allowed to get mad when she checks out other guys. Stuff like pointing out his personal flaws or turn offs to him then acting like he’s the devil when he returns the favor.

These are highly common themes you see all across the board in normal relationships. I’ve seen countless examples of it on tiktok and yt shorts and I’ve heard real life stories of these things happening from friends who don’t suck at getting girlfriends. There seems to be a widespread imbalance of power going on. 

But regardless of that I’m certain I could get massive enjoyment and fulfillment out of having girlfriends because real girls have something dolls and porn doesn’t: pheromones. Their armpits, neck and undercarriage area give off loads of them. It’s the thing that makes real sex infinitely better than fapping and drives you bananas with sexual arousal. That’s what I’m missing. That and all the kinks I could finally have fulfilled everyday for weeks at a time instead of only receiving them once every 8 fucking months while I’m asleep in a dream. 

 

 

I’m gonna be brutally honest with you, you are not going to fulfill your kinks at first. It’s going to be very plain, straightforward and awkward vanilla sex. No armpit fetish or whatever.  As an ex-misogynist because I was socially unsuccessful with them at one point. It’s ok, it’s honestly not worth hating them, just accept them for what they are and that if you were born a female, you would probably be no different. It’s not worth carrying around the burden of hate, to the point where whenever you see an attractive girl you feel a hint of rage. It’s not worth it, let go. Listen to the Subliminals that I told you about and simply trust it. Don’t try and resist, force or beg. Just allow and it will happen. Stop being influenced by social media, movies etc and letting that dictate your lense of females. Go outside and get an authentic experience. Your own personal experience, forget about TikTok, IG etc. Don’t let it skew your perception of them. 
 

[Chosen144]

On 27/01/2024 at 2:41 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

So you did try being the asshole. Did it get you laid or no?

I am quite certain I would be the special case. Every time I imagine myself being such an abusive piece of shit to women that it ruins their mood, I feel oh so alive! Hey, at least then I wouldn’t be seeking validation, because that’s supposedly the number 1 chick repellent. I also wouldn’t be a creep.  Because creeps don’t go out with the soul intention of being a vibe killing prick.

For me, it’s come down to only one of two options: Be a timid, nervous, little bitch during my approaches, or, learn to be a total monster. We’re talking wife and child beating alcoholic levels of toxic but without the physical violence. Like making them feel terrible in any and every way available and using horrifyingly dark humor that’s worse than anything they’ve ever heard. 

This “being myself” horse shit is not fucking cutting it. It’s either be a nervous wreck or be incredibly mean. As much as I’d like to, I simply have no access to anything else. Being an ass is better than being a pussy, so all I can do is play the best cards I have.

Jordan Peterson is a controversial figure but one thing he says that I like is the importance of having the ability to unleash your inner monster.

By this you meant lost cause as in never being able to find happiness, not not being able to get laid, correct? I sure hope so 

I admire you for telling us your raw feeling without shame. Well done. 
 

You feel envious of the cool dark triad chads that are assholes and beat their girlfriends but still get laid eh? Insecure of your masculinity. I understand because I literally felt this way too at one point believe me. You’re just putting a chip on your soldier and there’s simply no point holding that negativity inside. . You feel you have every right to be an edgy bad boy and kick back at the world because it did the same to you. These revenge fantasies, it’s only going to dig the hole deeper. Heal yourself and your trauma of being socially unsuccessful and octrasized. Accept the nature of woman. And work on yourself to become more higher value in the dating game. Looksmaxxing, building wealth etc. Look into yourself and what is stopping your from being successful with women both physically, mentally and socially and shift.

 

Alcoholic cool dark triad dude is not the ideal way of life no matter how cool you it looks in your head. You can’t be anyway as that only works for proper attractive men tbh lmao, it’s the 

Simply improve yourself in all aspects of life, focus on self improvement and trial and error when it comes to doing well both with women and people in general. Attract your soul tribe who are meant for you. Don’t limit yourself.

 

maybe @Leo Gura could give some better advice. 

[Kid A]

On 28.1.2024 at 10:52 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

Did an approach yesterday on two 7.5s by my city’s standards. Needless to say I had a bad day to put things lightly. I showed them a silly Minecraft video asking if they’ve ever seen something like that in a playful attempt to get a convo going. Lo and behold, I was given the infamous gray rock treatment before they briskly walked away. I did learn from it though. More like it reminded me what I already knew. A painful reminder of why I have oceans within oceans of resentment for these wretched fucking shit goblins. It’s always the same shit with exceptions being few and far between. 

Even though it was hurtful, you should be thankful for this experience. I'm sorry to say, but if this was you being authentic, your interests are too unattractive and this needs to change if you want decent results. The more you realize how unattractive geeky stuff like Minecraft is, the more of a distaste you'll develop for it, and this will make you more attractive. Start developing a taste for more attractive stuff.