Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Zigzag Idiot said: This is all rather depressing, isn't it,,,,,? »And the angel said to them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.« Luke 2:10-11 »Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!« Isaiah 5:20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said: No. I think it's likely we have a soul. If so, who made it? does your pride stand in the way for you to be saved? »For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.« Romans 6:23 »For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”« Romans 10:13 NLT »That is why the Lord says, “Turn to me now, while there is time. Give me your hearts. Come with fasting, weeping, and mourning.« Joel 2:12 Edited January 2 by MellowEd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Danioover9000 said: @MellowEd Besides the spiritual context here, in the body language/verbal/discourse/statement context, my first impressions is he's a good communicator, good tonality and good body language communication of his beliefs and experiences. Lots of referring to the bible and it's passages, hopeful tonality. Pacing of speech is also fast, almost like Destiny or Ben Shapiro with that quick delivery and also deep chesty breathing which makes sense to me even though chest breathing could be interpreted as distress and the body needing more oxygen it makes sense here as he's speaking quickly and with energy, good punctuations and inflexes on certain words. Overall I do feel he's quite persuasive in communication, and factoring in discourse and presentation of his setting, him talking to Christians like this it makes sense for him to speak and behave like this non-verbally. I detect very little deception or defensiveness from him, I think he's telling the truth of his experiences, so his experiences are genuine to him, and I detect very little incongruence of his baseline to his audience, definitely an experienced speaker so pretty decent to me. Well observed. I agree : ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 I like to keep things simple by making all Leotemplations (Leo Gura Contemplations) into bulletpoint with hope that someday one of this bullets hits and BOOOOMM , Awake!! this is my favorite one: Open for add ons but try to edit in a way that the bullet list become a weapon of ego destruction Perception implies a suble duality of subject and object Me subject » percieving the object »color and shape object Perception requires a subject perceiving. Implicit metaphysics What perception looks like if you remove the subject. What if we strip the object from the subject. Color red floating in empty space. So is this removal of the subject was possible would all the perceptual field change? You assume that the phsical world was existing here before "you" came, but you dont now a state before "you" came What if there was not more a you in relation to some other, like the ocean with no you as a reference point. Remove the personal aspect from universe, depersonalize it , So imagine a object that exist by itself with no subject to percive it. How the universe would know for example that there is an asterioid floating in space. You belive there a external material world independent of you You belive there are 2 kind of objects in universe, dump one as rocks and sentient as you,animals You belive that this sentient beings percieve the external world and have their own mind and perception bubble (other minds) You belive that you was born in this world as a biologocal creature You belive that this Perception of reality is inside a brain that is also a dump object that produce the reality. Material system made from quarks to moleclues and cells… This is not how it work there is no objective external world only one thing exists. One universal field of consciousness and everything you didnt come to this world as a material object but you was born as an idea You are not physical, you are the ideia that you are a physical being this ideia of you, when it spawned into being it took ownership of this field.of consciousness and misinterpret it as its own perception. You imagine that you death is, is the extinguir of this bubble and what you imagine your birth was is that it was an starting point of this instantiation of this bubble That is not the case. The field had one idea of ;oh this field is my and its my life and from it youconstructed an sense of selfhood and with that that I, the subject are experiencing a materia external world out there. ( INSIDE VS OUTSIDE DUALITY) (LIKE A UNICELULAR BEING IN A OCEAN) All you ever enconter is you sense perceptions of visions,sounds,flavors,scents,pressure,pain,emotions,thoughs,narraties, imaginations Awaken is get out from the spell of misinterpretation that you are being an object thar dont want to surrender you survival schemes that keep you . Keep questioning till start getting scary, fear is your guide. Awareness without any living creature. Self existing. You say you are some "I" aware of objects, but what is awareness itself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 14 minutes ago, MellowEd said: If so, who made it? God. 18 minutes ago, MellowEd said: does your pride stand in the way for you to be saved? »For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.« Romans 6:23 »For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”« Romans 10:13 NLT »That is why the Lord says, “Turn to me now, while there is time. Give me your hearts. Come with fasting, weeping, and mourning.« Joel 2:12 Just a heads-up, you will need to calm down that preacher talk a good bit if you want to stay here. We promote a pluralistic approach to religion; no proselytizing, no "turning to Christ". We appreciate your understanding Quote What’s NOT Allowed: [...] Religious activism or dogmatic promotion of any religious belief system [...] Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 When I die I what I become? When? Time What is I? What is death? Point on time What becomes what? Where? When? Where to put the limitation line? By whom? When "you" was born what exactly was born? And when "you" die what is dissolving into no-existence? Even the question of the first human baby being born is ridiculous, who to set apart the new category or specie? Homo Sapiens? What is the original "soul" of being a human- we have a taxonomy problem beging question? Who named "a human" "anthropologists reject the concept of race as a useful tool to understanding humanity, and instead view humanity as a complex, interrelated genetic continuum" De <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_taxonomy> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 You basically is looking for the One Running the Show. The Show is Running and there is one audience, and is you, you are the whole Circus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Danioover9000 said: @MellowEd In another context, say in a Uniciv game, or Civ 1,2,3,4 or 5 game, you're like this great prophet unit designed in the game to spread a religion within your own friendly city state territory. However, in this forum, this isn't friendly territory, and this forum talks more about Self actualization, philosophy, metaphysics, epistemology, psychology, spirituality, non-duality and other advanced concepts, basically 'unfriendly territory' for you as an enemy city state, which diminishes your spread percentage rate here. True. Evangelists is knowned to be martyred. Edited January 2 by MellowEd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 A Circus Self Created for its Own Self Enjoyment and Self Exploration, Enjoy the Show as best you can , Be a creator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 @Rafael Thundercat those AI artwork are ridiculously creative. Any human who says that AI doesn’t have a soul is a fool. I AM false Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said: When I die I what I become? When? Time What is I? What is death? Point on time What becomes what? Where? When? Where to put the limitation line? By whom? When "you" was born what exactly was born? And when "you" die what is dissolving into no-existence? Even the question of the first human baby being born is ridiculous, who to set apart the new category or specie? Homo Sapiens? What is the original "soul" of being a human- we have a taxonomy problem beging question? Who named "a human" "anthropologists reject the concept of race as a useful tool to understanding humanity, and instead view humanity as a complex, interrelated genetic continuum" De <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_taxonomy> What? "Even the question of the first human baby being born is ridiculous" Agreed! Edited January 2 by MellowEd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2 39 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said: God. Just a heads-up, you will need to calm down that preacher talk a good bit if you want to stay here. We promote a pluralistic approach to religion; no proselytizing, no "turning to Christ". We appreciate your understanding I can see how that's annoying for non believers. Feel free to remove that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 3 (edited) On 12/31/2023 at 10:37 AM, MellowEd said: What does that mean? Well, that requires a lot of contemplation and awakenings to appreciate. But for now you can Consciousness to be your entire visual field. Quote Yes i am aware that i am something, this makes me worried about my soul. You are saying that if there is a creator he is also the creation? Consciousness is an infinite and eternal field. It isn't divided into souls or anything else. You are the Creator and the Creation. Quote I asked God in the name of Jesus to reveal himself to me, His voice would make you tremble! When God speaks to his prophets in the bible is he speaking to himself? Following the Bible will only make you more confused. Best to throw all that away and just focus on contemplating and exploring the nature of Consciousness in your direct experience. No one can tell you what Consciousness is, since you're directly experiencing it already. Rather than reading about red, if you want to understand red, just look at red. Edited January 3 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Leo Gura said: Well, that requires a lot of contemplation and awakenings to appreciate. But for now you can Consciousness to be your entire visual field. Consciousness is an infinite and eternal field. It isn't divided into souls or anything else. You are the Creator and the Creation. Following the Bible will only make you more confused. Best to throw all that away and just focus on contemplating and exploring the nature of Consciousness in your direct experience. No one can tell you what Consciousness is, since you're directly experiencing it already. Rather than reading about red, if you want to understand red, just look at red. You are blinded by satan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Posted January 3 (edited) @MellowEd May be time to shift from a childish relationship to the matter to a more serious one. Why are you asking? What do you hope to get out of answers? Regardless of your purpose for asking, first look into what you are, then it might be useful to tackle what life is. Edited January 3 by UnbornTao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 3 Whatever you are fantasizing about, embrace it authentically. Imagination is highly undervalued because we assume it is false. Yes, I said you can fantasize authentically. Contemplate. I AM false Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 3 (edited) DMT, MDMA, LSD, and all the other mindbenders is diminutive compared to visional, auditory, love, and peace experienced with the Lord. Conversance with God has taught me to fear Him. »Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.« 1 Corinthians 3:18-19 Edited January 3 by MellowEd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
