Does anyone else feel constant fear or am I the only one?

[Javfly33]

If I really pay close attention to my energies I can sense a subtle fear going on always. 
 

This fear is usually masked and 'numbed' by all kind of distractions, from socialisation to sports, to shopping, visiting places, ...etc. Anything to not feel this subtle fear, anxiousness, uneasiness.

Is only when I can manage to establish myself in a very high consciousness state, that I can tap with a certain sense of confidence, joy, power, etc... This are certain tricks that I have managed to develop after hundreds of hours doing Yoga. But the tricks or tools are still very rudimentary so they are still accidental. 

I guess there´s no solution for this but to live in an awoke state all the time.

As long as one is identified with body and mind, it seems this subtle terror will always be there. The only solution is to go beyond it, but who knows how much it will take there, maybe years and years of going through the mud. 

Is insane how do we got ourselves into this mess. The ego. I guess the only solution is to surrender, keep meditating, keep doing the Lightwork. At some point the devil must be break for good. I only hope that moment won´t be death, that It will be a bit earlier, so life can be truly enjoyed. 

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Javfly33 what can I say... You are not alone on this path of surrender and warrior. It's hard af, but the if the burden on your shoulders bends your knees the end is closer than You think. Relax. Everything comes at the right time. Till then and always:

Om Namah Shivaya🙏

[Princess Arabia]

They say sometimes eating meat can create fear in us as we are ingesting the energy of fear that the animals felt while being slaughtered.

Don't know if that's true or not, but it does make sense. Maybe you're also feeling nervous from caffeine intake - not sure if you drink coffee or not but nervousness can feel like fear at times. 

I don't think this is that uncommon though, it's probably why some folks lash out so quickly and can get so easily triggered. 

[Carl-Richard]

This is the realization of dukkha, the truth of suffering. You always try to do something, squeeze something out of life, but at the end of every experience, you're left just as empty.

This realization came crystal clear to me during my first LSD experience. I had planned so many things I wanted to do and experience in this new altered state (weird sensory experiences, fun things to watch, songs to listen to, etc.), but when the time came where I entered the state and did the things I had planned, I felt an immense sense of emptiness, uneasiness and existential dread, not just after doing the things, but before and during. I felt a sense of helplessness due to the all-encompassing nature of this realization. It touched everything I thought I knew. I felt that nothing I could ever do could rid me of this feeling. I didn't know it at the time, but this realization laid the foundation for the intense search for truth that was about to come.

Edited December 31, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[OBEler]

@Javfly33 You are definitely touching something very deep.

I am too unconscious to feel that fear during the day so I feel good most of the time.

If I take psychedelics, sometimes I feel this uneasyness and fear arising. I think that's the one you are talking about. It's a fear in the moment of now. If I am conscious, what I am exactly right now experiencing this fear comes up. It's a feeling of fear and something is wrong. Like in the movie true man show. Something is weird. that what I am looking at is just made up by my mind. If I am too much self centered that happens. 

Edited December 31, 2023 by OBEler

[Inliytened1]

5 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

If I really pay close attention to my energies I can sense a subtle fear going on always. 
 

This fear is usually masked and 'numbed' by all kind of distractions, from socialisation to sports, to shopping, visiting places, ...etc. Anything to not feel this subtle fear, anxiousness, uneasiness.

Is only when I can manage to establish myself in a very high consciousness state, that I can tap with a certain sense of confidence, joy, power, etc... This are certain tricks that I have managed to develop after hundreds of hours doing Yoga. But the tricks or tools are still very rudimentary so they are still accidental. 

I guess there´s no solution for this but to live in an awoke state all the time.

As long as one is identified with body and mind, it seems this subtle terror will always be there. The only solution is to go beyond it, but who knows how much it will take there, maybe years and years of going through the mud. 

Is insane how do we got ourselves into this mess. The ego. I guess the only solution is to surrender, keep meditating, keep doing the Lightwork. At some point the devil must be break for good. I only hope that moment won´t be death, that It will be a bit earlier, so life can be truly enjoyed. 

That fear is the fear of death. Of being extinguished.   It will always linger .  Yes meditation will bring you to Truth.  There's a reason why the ego fights against meditation - against stilling the mind 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Javfly33]

5 hours ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@Javfly33 what can I say... You are not alone on this path of surrender and warrior. It's hard af, but the if the burden on your shoulders bends your knees the end is closer than You think. Relax. Everything comes at the right time. Till then and always:

Om Namah Shivaya🙏

Haha... I hope you right 🤞

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

They say sometimes eating meat can create fear in us as we are ingesting the energy of fear that the animals felt while being slaughtered.

 

It´s crazy that you say that, I literally stop eating meat for that reason, but I never read that, I just intuited it from psychedelic trips. Is true.  

(also not just when being slaughtered, when you eat any food you absorb all the 'memory' that that food has accumulated)

3 hours ago, Squeekytoy said:

@Javfly33 it's everyone, just mostly masked and numbed and denied and distracted from, like you said.

That fear IS the false self, and that's how it preserves itself. God isn't keeping us out, we're keeping ourselves in.

Follow that fear to get to the truth. 

🙏 There´s no other way anyway

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

This is the realization of dukkha, the truth of suffering. You always try to do something, squeeze something out of life, but at the end of every experience, you're left just as empty.

This realization came crystal clear to me during my first LSD experience. I had planned so many things I wanted to do and experience in this new altered state (weird sensory experiences, fun things to watch, songs to listen to, etc.), but when the time came where I entered the state and did the things I had planned, I felt an immense sense of emptiness, uneasiness and existential dread, not just after doing the things, but before and during. I felt a sense of helplessness due to the all-encompassing nature of this realization. It touched everything I thought I knew. I felt that nothing I could ever do could rid me of this feeling. I didn't know it at the time, but this realization laid the foundation for the intense search for truth that was about to come.

Right, And most humans live in this dukkha nearly all the time, is just masked by constant external stimulation. 

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

@Javfly33 You are definitely touching something very deep.

I am too unconscious to feel that fear during the day so I feel good most of the time.

If I take psychedelics, sometimes I feel this uneasyness and fear arising. I think that's the one you are talking about. It's a fear in the moment of now. If I am conscious, what I am exactly right now experiencing this fear comes up. It's a feeling of fear and something is wrong. Like in the movie true man show. Something is weird. that what I am looking at is just made up by my mind. If I am too much self centered that happens. 

Yeap- that´s exactly the one I mean. 

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

That fear is the fear of death. Of being extinguished.   It will always linger .  Yes meditation will bring you to Truth.  There's a reason why the ego fights against meditation - against stilling the mind 

Right, lately I wonder, why the hell I am afraid just being but my own, in the silence? How the fuck just being alone in silence makes me anxious?

[gettoefl]

the miracle is a heart keeps beating three billion times without stopping per lifetime

the fear is the next heartbeat will not

and i am still digging around in the mud instead of being done

tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock

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Nothings stops you from being a Jnani here and now, except fear. You are afraid of being impersonal, of impersonal being. It is all quite simple. Turn away from your desires and fears, and from the thoughts they create, and you are at once in your natural state. Nisargadatta

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by gettoefl

[Yimpa]

Fear is not bad. It keeps you alive. Excessive fear keeps you stuck, though. 

Everytime you’re exposed to fear is an opportunity to learn something new about yourself. Don’t worry about those lessons having to come out a particular way that you think is right.

Edited December 31, 2023 by Yimpa

[Breakingthewall]

Fear is what closes us and it is deeper and more omnipresent than it seems, few really face it. Fear is what creates the duality between me and what is not me, it is the doors of the cave of Blake's poem, the door without a door that is the self. Without fear there is no self, and openness is total. The only solution to fear is total openness to existence, that is, to yourself. completely accept the whole cake, and this is not easy, because it includes the yin, but if you don't do it you also close yourself off to the yang and life is miserable. 

I also see it as fundamental, as you said, to completely dissolve fear before dying, it is something that must be done in this life if I want to be free. 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Rafael Thundercat]

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

They say sometimes eating meat can create fear in us as we are ingesting the energy of fear that the animals felt while being slaughtered.

Don't know if that's true or not, but it does make sense. Maybe you're also feeling nervous from caffeine intake - not sure if you drink coffee or not but nervousness can feel like fear at times. 

I don't think this is that uncommon though, it's probably why some folks lash out so quickly and can get so easily triggered. 

true about the meat, at least for me, mainly if the meat comes from slaugtherhouses and is not well coked. Once after a barbecue with family I started having violent nigthmares, it took one week to the energy of the meat come out of my system, that energy basicaly was bringing all topics related to violence that was and are inside of my subconscious mind, even one of the characters end up being a person that in my life represents stupididy and violnece and uncoincious behavior. Food become fuel for dreams and for our daily vibe. There is a small book on Macrobiotics that deals with the relation of food and dreams I dont have acess now but later when I rememember i will share here

[Princess Arabia]

27 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

That energy is life energy, it's not there in a dead corpse.

You can't eat fear 

Energy never dies, so there.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Squeekytoy said:

That's why it's called life energy. But it doesn't stay in the corpse. That's also why it's called life energy.

It's not a "physical" energy to begin with. That's why you can't eat it.

So there. 

Well, maybe that corpse isn't really dead that's why there's a decaying process. So there. I could keep this going, Mr Smarty.😜

[Carl-Richard]

58 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

That's why it's called life energy. But it doesn't stay in the corpse. That's also why it's called life energy.

It's not a "physical" energy to begin with. That's why you can't eat it.

So there. 

Mmm technically, when you feel fear, there is a physiological response, so in that sense, there is fear in the meat. Whether this causes you to feel fear when you eat the meat depends how you want to draw the lines. Could the fear decrease the health of the meat, decrease your own health by eating it and thus make it more likely to find yourself in a situation where you experience fear (as decreased health leads to dysfunction and dysfunction leads to less fortunate situations)? Probably. Could the fear be stored in some psychic bank that is released in your psychic system when you eat the meat? Maybe.

Edited December 31, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Yimpa]

Gonna steal this insight and recontextualize it…

Fear has a genetic and neurological component. Some people just have more fear than others for those reasons.

 

[UnbornTao]

Fear is a basic human experience. It is a relationship you adopt to the future.

We take ourselves to be someone or something, defending that involves fear. Everything other than you is potentially a threat. Fear is very easy to access and generate. Seems like as long as self-survival is your operating principle, fear is present, to a greater or lesser degree. 

Edited January 1 by UnbornTao

[Yimpa]

Lessening your fear requires repeated exposure. For example, I went to a crowded bar last night and could feel myself becoming overwhelmed many times. My baseline for social anxiety is already quite high. Best to accept that you have limitations and deficiencies in certain areas of your life and to make a conscious effort on improving it.

Also, good to observe other people you perceive as confident. Realize that you also have confidence within yourself. You just need to discover and practice how to express it in your own unique ways.

Edited December 31, 2023 by Yimpa

[Hojo]

I used to have constant fear everyday of death. Akin to someone who is afraid of snakes having snakes thrown on them 24/7. I think I conquered my fear of non existence and I haven't gotten is back for 3 years now and I focus on it daily. I looked it up and they are called kleshas. If you overcome your klesha you are g2g. This can only be done by seeing that uts not real fear is not real why are you entertaining it. The only reason must be you haven't fully seen through your klesha. 

 

"The kleshas are considered the cause of suffering in yogic and Buddhist philosophy and are to be actively overcome. The five Kleshas are Avidya (ignorance), Asmita (egoism or I-am-ness), Raga (attachment), Dvesha (repulsion and aversion), and Abhinivesha (fear of death and the will to live)."

 

I am starting to wake up and not be able to find myself in  my pov. You cant think of anything cause you gotta find yourself to think. Withought thinking there is no fear of death but you gotta overcome your fear of death to stop thinking about it.

 

The best thing to do is cry about it.if something pains you in life that you cannot change you cry about it. Well REALLY cry about it. You don't want to die and its unfair that you have too so surrender and cry like a baby. This should be something you cry about harder than anything that exists for you. Cry that you are dead its sad to be alone. Let God see how much you suffer it might do something special for you. Where men existentially cry God weep.

Edited December 31, 2023 by Hojo

[gettoefl]

whoops

 

 

Edited January 1 by gettoefl