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Long day

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1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

Long day

Who could have imagined that a long day could be the most needed break?

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@Yimpa it wasn’t a break 

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@Thought Art was it productive?

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@Yimpa haha, no. One of the hardest and least profitable days ever 
 

 

Luckily, or not. Today is a surprise off day for the camp. I am enjoying contemplating with ChatGPT and Claude about western models of the nervous system and human energy system and Chinese model of Qi. It’s the same body we are coming at it come different angles. Very different models. 

 

They are also developed via different approaches. 
 

Many Toaist ideas come from meditative traditions where modern science doesn’t. Chinese medicine is more holistic and focusing on balancing the whole. For this reason Qi is a broad word for the bodies aliveness/ Homeostatic nature. 
 

There is clearly energy in the body if we require electrolytes and have a complex electrochemical nervous system, a beating heart, the ability to move around and be alive, that we can be tired or full of energy. That we have different emotions that effect how we move, stand, sit, breath, facial expression, choice of words and vocal tone, cognitive behviour.. 

But, thought art what about hormones, calories, neurons, pH and Alkaline, cells, mitochondrial, blood, nerves, etc don’t these things disprove Qi because we can observe them and not Qi?

We take for granted this divine homeostatic intelligence and animating capacity if the human organism. It’s been doing this for millions of years with no end in sight… made of infinite intelligence and Consciousness. The highest will.

Does physical reductionism disprove Qi? No.

I would argue not at all. Traditional Chinese medicine is a a holistic practice focused on balancing the whole. It involves things like preventative maintaince through healthy balanced living. It sees the human as part of nature and that all of life has this force flowing through it. When we balance this force we can live in health and harmony. 

All these reductionist elements do not disprove of a life force. Because all these components come together to keep you alive. What is all the breathing, digesting, absorbing, emitting of heat, heart pumping, hormones, biochemical reactions, electrochemical reactions, and nerve signals, and consciousness and thoughts and emotions and feelings, and life! 
 

All that, and viewing it as a single process and looking to create balance in this system… a useful meta term for it all is Qi. 

We all have to agree that when we live healthy life styles we are generally healthier and that the body has a natural tendency to stay alive and be healthy when in the right conditions. This homeostatic tendcy of the body animating capacity is Qi. 
 

All these newly developed reductionist, materialistic, mechanistic views on the human body are extremely insightful and important. But, I do not see them as opposing Qi.  You could even have the lens that the physical manifestation of such a complex being and the energy it has to keep living for millions of years is something special. How did the first heart start beating? It’s very mysterious.  That, without some kind of force that runs through life we would just be rocks and dust, and water. 
 

Traditional Chinese medicine doctors were not reductionist. 
 

There goal was to maintain and restore balance too the whole body. So, they developed a different map than a reductionist one. 
 

The idea of Qi, is a useful one for such a holistic framework that sees each organ and part of the body as essential components in the body’s homeostatic ability and also that the body has an animating capacity… it can move around and think and stuff. Viewing the whole body as a totality and looking at health this way is way of looking at health and wellness. 
 

Western science has taken a more reductionist approach. 
 

There is strengths and weaknesses to different approaches. 

Edited July 31 by Thought Art

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The question is not whether Qi exists but what are the possibilities of working with it? And how accurate are our current maps?

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I like how deepak points out that the quantum is a mathematical concept and not a “physical or objective object. This points out a double standard in science when it treats it as such. 
 

 

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I am more gentle with my art and more generous with my inner artist. I share more openly and more playfully. I am a good artist and my work comes to good.👍 

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New routine: 

 

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Last couple weeks were financially disappointing on this planting contract

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Always working on my mindfulness. Yesterday I’ve noticed a moodiness and judgmental ness. I think planting trees, though a short term financial solution isn’t something I want to do for a long time. It’s an adevnture, the potential to pay well. The socialization has been very good for me and I enjoy nature. But, the lack of freedom and manual labour are getting to me. I am willing to do what I need to do in the short term to meet my savings goals. 
 

Building this savings net is the foundation of all future success in my Qigong business. I am in the process this week of writing out my first 15 routines to be put in the subscription service I am launching. I just launched a very basic version of the website. 
 

The subscription is something I can launch while building my savings. I will not launch the beta program until I have 6 months worth of savings. Not an easy task.

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I have the 15 routines written out and can begin filming them on the off day evenings. It’s a pretty large project. But, it will help me deepen my knowledge and give people something of value. I can put the money earned toward website costs. 
 

Vimeo OTT has a nice model for the subscription service. 

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Define: Ontology, metaphysics, spirituality, science, meta science, epistemology, consciousness, and write a brief summary of their interconnected ness and importance of being grounded in for accurate perception of reality 

 

ChatGPT:

Certainly! Here's a brief definition of each term followed by a summary of their interconnectedness and importance in understanding reality.

### Definitions:

1. **Ontology**:
   - Ontology is the branch of philosophy that studies the nature of being, existence, and reality. It explores concepts such as what entities exist or can be said to exist, and how such entities can be grouped, related within a hierarchy, and subdivided according to similarities and differences.

2. **Metaphysics**:
   - Metaphysics is a branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the fundamental nature of being and the world. It addresses questions about the nature of reality, the relationship between mind and matter, substance and attribute, and potentiality and actuality.

3. **Spirituality**:
   - Spirituality refers to a sense of connection to something greater than oneself, which can involve a search for meaning in life. It often encompasses aspects of personal growth, religious beliefs, and practices, or the pursuit of a relationship with the divine.

4. **Science**:
   - Science is the systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe. It relies on empirical evidence, experimentation, and observation to understand natural phenomena.

5. **Meta-science**:
   - Meta-science, or the science of science, involves the study of the methods, practices, and outcomes of scientific research. It aims to improve the efficiency and reliability of scientific endeavors by analyzing the structures and dynamics of science itself.

6. **Epistemology**:
   - Epistemology is the study of knowledge, its nature, origin, and limits. It examines the definitions and criteria of knowledge, the means by which knowledge is acquired, and the extent to which knowledge pertinent to any given subject or entity can be acquired.

7. **Consciousness**:
   - Consciousness refers to the state of being aware of and able to think and perceive one's surroundings, thoughts, and experiences. It is often explored in philosophy of mind, cognitive science, and psychology to understand the nature and function of awareness and self-awareness.

### Interconnectedness and Importance:

These concepts are deeply interconnected, each contributing a unique perspective on understanding reality:

- **Ontology and Metaphysics** provide the foundational questions and frameworks about what exists and the nature of existence, allowing us to explore the ultimate nature of reality.
- **Epistemology** addresses how we come to know what we believe to exist, questioning the justification and truth of our knowledge claims.
- **Science** offers a systematic method for investigating the natural world, grounded in empirical evidence and experimentation, which can be evaluated through the lens of epistemology.
- **Meta-science** evaluates and refines the methods of science itself, ensuring that scientific knowledge is robust and reliable.
- **Consciousness** connects these fields by examining how we experience and interpret reality, raising questions about subjective experience and the nature of the mind.
- **Spirituality** often bridges personal and experiential aspects of existence, influencing one's perception of reality and often intersecting with metaphysical inquiries about meaning and purpose.

Understanding the interplay between these domains is crucial for a comprehensive perception of reality. They collectively contribute to a holistic worldview, balancing empirical investigation with philosophical inquiry to offer a nuanced understanding of both the observable universe and the subjective human experience. Grounding oneself in these disciplines encourages a more accurate and complete view of reality, guiding personal growth, scientific exploration, and philosophical insight.

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Now for Claude AI:

Define: Ontology, metaphysics, spirituality, science, meta science, epistemology, consciousness, and write a brief summary of their interconnected ness and importance of being grounded in for accurate perception of reality

Certainly. Let's define these terms and then explore their interconnectedness:

1. Ontology: The philosophical study of existence, being, and the nature of reality.

2. Metaphysics: A branch of philosophy that examines the fundamental nature of reality, including the relationship between mind and matter, substance and attribute, and potentiality and actuality.

3. Spirituality: The quality of being concerned with the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things, often involving a sense of connection to something bigger than ourselves.

4. Science: The systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

5. Meta-science: The study of science itself, including its methods, assumptions, and limitations.

6. Epistemology: The theory of knowledge, especially with regard to its methods, validity, and scope, and the distinction between justified belief and opinion.

7. Consciousness: The state of being aware of and able to think about one's own thoughts, feelings, and surroundings.

Brief summary of their interconnectedness and importance:

These concepts are deeply interrelated and collectively form the foundation for understanding and perceiving reality accurately. Ontology and metaphysics provide the philosophical framework for questioning and exploring the nature of existence and reality. Epistemology offers tools to evaluate how we acquire knowledge and what we can truly know.

Science provides a methodological approach to understanding the physical world through empirical observation and experimentation. Meta-science examines the limitations and assumptions of the scientific method itself, helping to refine and improve our approach to gaining knowledge.

Spirituality often deals with aspects of existence that may be beyond the current reach of scientific inquiry, addressing questions of meaning, purpose, and non-material aspects of reality. It can complement scientific understanding by exploring subjective experiences and providing different perspectives on consciousness and existence.

Consciousness itself is a central concept that bridges many of these fields. It's the subject of scientific inquiry (e.g., neuroscience), philosophical debate (in metaphysics and ontology), spiritual exploration, and epistemological questioning (how conscious experience relates to knowledge).

Being grounded in these interconnected fields is crucial for accurate perception of reality because:

1. It provides a comprehensive framework for understanding existence from multiple perspectives.
2. It encourages critical thinking and questioning of assumptions.
3. It helps in recognizing the limitations of any single approach to understanding reality.
4. It promotes an appreciation for both objective and subjective aspects of existence.
5. It fosters an understanding of how knowledge is acquired and validated.
6. It encourages a holistic view that considers both empirical evidence and philosophical reasoning.
7. It helps in navigating the complex relationship between consciousness, perception, and reality.

By integrating insights from these fields, one can develop a more nuanced, balanced, and accurate perception of reality, acknowledging both what is known and the vast expanse of what remains unknown or uncertain.