The ice has broken. Awakening.

[Yimpa]

34 minutes ago, Galyna said:

I agree 100%, but we need the labels to name things and construct them, bind them together to create illusion and enjoy it. 

I 

[Galyna]

@Bandman Since I remember myself, I had this craving to understand the nature of Being. Hard to say in a few words but I remember that day when I found that information, it was in January 2010. I remember the website name: “Game of Consciousness“, it was my first time when I learned about advaita. Ofc, prior to that I had different beliefs and read different things. 

Concentration, self-inquiry, meditation….atma vichara, even tried mushrooms twice, just a little bit. But in all honesty, once your mind is trained to dive out from the thinking process and not associating yourself with the train of thoughts; that is where the major shift happens. You see your body as it lives on its own, you see your thoughts, as they also live on their own. Realization is all about your attention and commitment. You need to know what to do, how to do it and when to do it. Also you must understand why you are doing and what you are trying to achieve. 
I have not reached anything. I have just discovered and put my attention to notice how mind constructs this “I” which I call “myself”. It is a collection of things/phenomenons. 

[Galyna]

23 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

I 

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[Yimpa]

Have you ever had attachment issues with your family? If so, how were you able to overcome and let go of that attachment? 

[Galyna]

15 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Have you ever had attachment issues with your family? If so, how were you able to overcome and let go of that attachment? 

I didn’t have a traditional family, my dad left my mom when I was infant, my mom passed me to my grandparents (she was 22) and went to seek another relationship. I don’t even remember my parents in the childhood. Mom and dad reappeared in my life when I was a teen. I have a normal relationships with them now. 
 

Why? 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Galyna

[Yimpa]

@Galyna  Amazing, thank you for sharing your unique journey. It makes me realize that I can also follow my own unique path authentically and no longer be bound by how things “should” be.

[Galyna]

7 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

@Galyna  Amazing, thank you for sharing your unique journey. It makes me realize that I can also follow my own unique path authentically and no longer be bound by how things “should” be.

I am so glad I could help 😊. Maybe I need to write more. Thanks for stopping by. There is no path, really?  I love this saying: “As you start to walk on the way, the way appears.”- Rumi. 

[Merkabah Star]

@Galyna

loved your OP. 
 

thank you beautiful!

❤️❤️❤️

[Merkabah Star]

2 hours ago, Galyna said:

Would you be happy if you tested positive cancer? Or if your children die in a car accident? Or if you become blind? And I mean the list can go on and on.” – actually, you would. You would be surprised how much a human being can take, survive, and adapt to the change.

I do not want to sound cynical but a lot of people who went through these situations at some points of their lives have accepted and surrendered to these horrible incidents. I know such people. Some of them are members of my family who had cancers, not even one. My own grandmother lost her son when he was little. It is scary how human being can rebound and move on in life.

It is interesting how some people who get a stage 4 cancer diagnosis and are given a few months to live, awaken like angels. Their inner peace is so obvious. Their acceptance is even beautiful. 
 

 

[Galyna]

25 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

It is interesting how some people who get a stage 4 cancer diagnosis and are given a few months to live, awaken like angels. Their inner peace is so obvious. Their acceptance is even beautiful. 
 

 

Yeah….some of them are, some of them are not. 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Galyna

[Galyna]

@Merkabah Star  Thank you.

[caspex]

It's really nice. It really feels like this much awakening should be prerequisite before you enter the world lol. 

Sets a nice foundation, for whatever you want to do from now on. Whether it be further spiritual growth or be it enjoying the material world. I know these two aren't strictly exclusive but they become exclusive at advanced levels especially because we have limited time before we die.

[Galyna]

4 hours ago, Swarnim said:

Sets a nice foundation, for whatever you want to do from now on

Foundation will be setting "me", the needed actions will be taken, the needed words will be said ...

[Breakingthewall]

15 hours ago, Galyna said:

even tried mushrooms twice, just a little bit. But in all honesty, once your mind is trained to dive out from the thinking process and not associating yourself with the train of thoughts

Its when when you can separate yourself from the block of energetic structures that is the ego when psychedelics start to be interesting and allow you to go deeper. I'm in that, sometimes I can detach the ego totally, others it traps me. If I don't do meditation every day,  i get trapped

Edited December 21, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Galyna]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Its when when you can separate yourself from the energetic block that is the ego when psychedelics start to be interesting and allow you to go deeper. I'm in that, sometimes I can detach the ego totally, others it traps me. If I don't do meditation every day,  i get trapped

You do not need psychedelics to see it. Awakening is a work with attention. What if you do not have access to psychedelics, then what? You are doomed to die in ignorance.

I believe psychedelic just morph and play with mind's states. Maybe they help some people, but imho, you do not need psychedelics for realization. 

 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Galyna said:

Awakening is a work with attention

Yes but attention to what? I see that there is a first step which is to change the mental energy flow from circular to amplitude. Circular I mean that it flows around itself, self-referential, it creates shapes and these shapes bounce off positive or negative energy and in that bounce they create the self. With meditation you change this flow to broad, there is no rebound, there is no self-referential thought and the self is diluted, then the depth manifests. This, now, is the abyss of reality. Let's say this is awakening in the first degree, but after this, with the help of psychedelics, you can have very deep insights about what this is.

The problem is doing psychedelics and getting into circular thinking and confusing it with real insight. I suppose that this same exploration could be done without psychedelics, perhaps it would be better and cleaner. Since both possibilities are viable, I do not rule out either

[Galyna]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes but attention to what?

Attention to your thoughts, reactions, feelings, sensations, habits, mind tendencies etc.

The goal is to see that everything perceived exists independently. Call it self-exploration. 

I need to open a new thread about and share my experience, step by step....

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Circular I mean that it flows around itself, self-referential, it creates shapes and these shapes bounce off positive or negative energy and in that bounce they create the self.

I love the way you put it.

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The problem is doing psychedelics and getting into circular thinking and confusing it with real insight. I suppose that this same exploration could be done without psychedelics, perhaps it would be better and cleaner. Since both possibilities are viable, I do not rule out either

I can not say much about psychedelics, they are probably not for me, sorry....

[Galyna]

31 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

Hey nice to see you again 

Any tips for working with attention?

 

Read below, first you start with a simple practice of concentration, you need to train your mind to not identify with this chaotic thinking process. Ideally, to achieve a mind of one thought, so your attention would not jump from task to task.

You can do breathing meditation and concentrate on the breath, or count from 1 to 10 and back for 1 h. Or go outside and count your steps, the thing here is to be fully present and only think about counting, if forgot, return back and start from zero. 

Start first with 30 min daily, then increase the time.

Once you will train your mind to concentrate on one object, you can put stickers on your desk or mirror to remind yourself to become aware during the day. You must do it every day. You can start with alarm, every three hours surface from your thinking, stop everything and just be, observe.

After all these steps, when your mind is relatively calm, you can do atma vichara. But you will need around three month to do the first step. Then atma vichara.

[Carl-Richard]

You know some threads are going to be good just by reading the title.

[Galyna]

@Carl-Richard 🥰 awwww, thank you …..