The philosophy of spoilers, and spoiler culture?

[Danioover9000]

   So much of what this guy says resonates with me deeply:

   I'd put it more severely in some cases but that's how I feel generally towards people whining and complaining about spoilers, or always seeking spoiler free content, or questioning the existence of those indifferent to spoilers. Yes, some people that are not effected by spoilers exist!

   For example, in the context of a book, with mystery genre, a crime happens and I don't know who did it. Halfway through my family or friend spoils the plot and characters a bit. Am I triggered? No, not so much, because what happens in my mind is that genre then becomes SUSPENSE, now I want to know and experience HOW the crimes happened, the events leading up, and even I want to know MORE about the characters and story plot.

   Another example, in a movie same thing, don't know much other than trailers, someone spoils it for me and I actually want to watch the movie more. In fact happens with older movies I've watched, as I've got good visual memories, and sometimes a movie comes on and one of my parents can't quite remember but few seconds in I remember ALL the major and minor events and characters, and sometimes if I'm asked or comment on the movie a few of them would discourage me from commenting or 'spoiling' the movie even when We've watched it already!

   Same with visual novels, same with video games or other art media, this spoiler culture is quite strange to me, strange how easily offended people get with spoilers, disregarding that in the 30's printing press were full of spoilers, disregarding nowadays the internet has a multitude of information full of spoilers.

   So why this aversion? For some of you effected by spoilers please explain to me your worldview, your mindscape, how you think and feel in your life dealing with spoilers. Same for those tolerant and indifferent to spoilers, please tell me how you particularly think and feel and process spoilers.

Note: obviously I do not support swearing or vulgarity used frequently, or demonizing/dehumanizing some people's thoughts and feelings like that guy in the video does as he's also a victim of social media machines and ideological echo chamber. Some really don't like spoilers for some reason, which intrigues me. Sometimes it's just irritating to deal with such people's poor attitudes to no spoilers or spoilers.

Edited December 16, 2023 by Danioover9000

[Danioover9000]

@Danioover9000

14 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

   So much of what this guy says resonates with me deeply:

   I'd put it more severely in some cases but that's how I feel generally towards people whining and complaining about spoilers, or always seeking spoiler free content, or questioning the existence of those indifferent to spoilers. Yes, some people that are not effected by spoilers exist!

   For example, in the context of a book, with mystery genre, a crime happens and I don't know who did it. Halfway through my family or friend spoils the plot and characters a bit. Am I triggered? No, not so much, because what happens in my mind is that genre then becomes SUSPENSE, now I want to know and experience HOW the crimes happened, the events leading up, and even I want to know MORE about the characters and story plot.

   Another example, in a movie same thing, don't know much other than trailers, someone spoils it for me and I actually want to watch the movie more. In fact happens with older movies I've watched, as I've got good visual memories, and sometimes a movie comes on and one of my parents can't quite remember but few seconds in I remember ALL the major and minor events and characters, and sometimes if I'm asked or comment on the movie a few of them would discourage me from commenting or 'spoiling' the movie even when We've watched it already!

   Same with visual novels, same with video games or other art media, this spoiler culture is quite strange to me, strange how easily offended people get with spoilers, disregarding that in the 30's printing press were full of spoilers, disregarding nowadays the internet has a multitude of information full of spoilers.

   So why this aversion? For some of you effected by spoilers please explain to me your worldview, your mindscape, how you think and feel in your life dealing with spoilers. Same for those tolerant and indifferent to spoilers, please tell me how you particularly think and feel and process spoilers.

Note: obviously I do not support swearing or vulgarity used frequently, or demonizing/dehumanizing some people's thoughts and feelings like that guy in the video does as he's also a victim of social media machines and ideological echo chamber. Some really don't like spoilers for some reason, which intrigues me. Sometimes it's just irritating to deal with such people's poor attitudes to no spoilers or spoilers.

   One other thing, I strongly disagree the assumption that asking why do some people like spoilers, and it's implicit opposite of some people don't like spoilers, is a stupid and dumb question. I think these types of question and many more types of questions is important for understanding, so that bit I don't agree with. I also want to correct him and state there are at least 2 types of people in this context: those that care about not getting spoilers, because I guess they want to preserve the magic and mystery, and the other type he misunderstands as the 'don't care about spoilers' type, ACTUALLY care about wanting that spoilers, wanting that leak to either start confirmation bias of past conjectures or speculations of the characters and story plot, even lore and world building. In clarity I think both types and more types of people care at various degrees here, and I think it's really hard of most businesses to survive if almost everyone ACTUALLY don't care, mostly indifferent to spoilers or not spoilers. In fact if he's correct his own channel and his LP will be jeopardized by this apathy mindset as nobody would care of him leaking or spoiling plots of a movie. 

[Basman]

This whole discussion around spoilers just seems kinda overblown to me. People don't like having their favorite media spoiled. It is not that deep. I see more people and "articles" complaining about spoiler culture rather than people complaining about spoilers.

The problem is more with social media as it is inherently about the propagation of information while spoiler culture is the opposite. You can't freely use social media and be completely safe from spoilers at the same time. But it it also not much to ask for some basic courtesy.