Andrew Tate, Elon Musk, Alex Jones in the same call

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura how can someone like elon be incredibly smart, build high conscious companies that are actually successful (except twitter and maybe neuralink), possibly be a force of major good in the AI safety space giving high quality insight there, yet at the same time be so dysfunctional with his politics, befriending some highly dysfunctional people like Alex j. or Andrew tate, work habits, the way he treats workers, etc. ... i honestly dont know how thats possible ..

It's easily possible and predicatable because success in business is often acheived with ego, selfishness, and domination. All of that leads to bad politics.

Good politics requires an unbiased mind, whereas good business requires a mind biased towards manipulating people and markets.

The reason Musk befriends these people is because they are massive egotists, just like him. So they gather together for a nice circle jerk to validate each other's egotism. This way they never have to seriously grow and mature. And all of this immaturity earns them 100s of millions of dollars.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Karmadhi]

30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's not that Jews control the media, it's neoliberals and corporate interests who control the media and use it to advance their business.

And then why are they so pro Israel biased? What do they gain from Israel? If neoliberals control the media why do they jerk off Israel like this? Israel is not a gigantic  economy or anything. Something is fishy here...

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:

And then why are they so pro Israel biased? What do they gain from Israel? If neoliberals control the media why do they jerk off Israel like this? Israel is not a gigantic  economy or anything. Something is fishy here...

1) That's just general Western bias. Israel is a Western style democracy while Gaza is a terrorist mess.

2) The Jewish lobby is powerful in America. They grease a lot of wheels.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

1) That's just general Western bias. Israel is a Western style democracy while Gaza is a terrorist mess.

2) The Jewish lobby is powerful in America. They grease a lot of wheels.

but what about the fact that Israel is losing so much international support?

 

Edited December 13, 2023 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

@Hardkill So what?

No amount of lobbying can hide Israeli butchery and war crimes.

At some point every honest person will be disgusted with it.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Hardkill So what?

No amount of lobbying can hide Israeli butchery and war crimes.

At some point every honest person will be disgusted with it.

Right. That is the point I am making.

Doesn't mean that Israel could very well become an international pariah and lose all of its allies in the future?

[Leo Gura]

43 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Right. That is the point I am making.

Doesn't mean that Israel could very well become an international pariah and lose all of its allies in the future?

I don't even know how many allies it had other than the US.

But it's not like countries will be unwilling to sell them weapons. Capitalism trumps morality in our world.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

We want him to do less. Less politicking because he's really bad at it. It's like if Albert Einstein started doing porn.

Einstein probably did porn with his wife though. People say the same thing about you that you shouldn't do politics and just stick at what you are good at.

Edited December 13, 2023 by StarStruck

[Leo Gura]

25 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Einstein probably did porn with his wife though. People say the same thing about you that you shouldn't do politics and just stick at what you are good at.

The difference is my politics is qualitatively superior to anything else you'll find out there. Because it's grounded in a deep understanding of psychology, spirituality, and self-deception.

Understanding things is what I'm good at.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference is my politics is qualitatively superior to anything else you'll find out there. Because it's grounded in a deep understanding of psychology, spirituality, and self-deception.

Understanding things is what I'm good at.

I watched the video. I haven't caught Musk saying anything insane. In fact he said some good things about the arrogance, ignorance and self hate of SD green. Thanks to toxic SD green, the far right won the elections in my country. And you see this happening in a lot of developed countries. This will cost SD green very dearly and it will backfire on them and their cause.

Edited December 13, 2023 by StarStruck

[Leo Gura]

45 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

I watched the video. I haven't caught Musk saying anything insane.

He equated the left and Twitter management with wanting to exterminate mankind.

[StarStruck]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

He equated the left and Twitter management with wanting to exterminate mankind.

Some of the left is crazy. I don’t think he meant all of the left.

[Ash55]

21 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's like if Albert Einstein started doing porn.

"orgy relativity opening a hole in time space"

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, StarStruck said:

Some of the left is crazy. I don’t think he meant all of the left.

No one on the left wants the extinction of mankind. That is so dumb.

[Princess Arabia]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference is my politics is qualitatively superior to anything else you'll find out there. Because it's grounded in a deep understanding of psychology, spirituality, and self-deception.

Understanding things is what I'm good at.

Yes you are. That's one of your strengths.

[Dauntment]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference is my politics is qualitatively superior to anything else you'll find out there. Because it's grounded in a deep understanding of psychology, spirituality, and self-deception.

Understanding things is what I'm good at.

@StarStruck  Leo's "archetype" is actually among the most suited/ideal for political recommendations/advisory https://www.16personalities.com/intp-personality  He is actually remarkably competent in his domain but (just like all forms) has limitations metaphysically, which people OFTEN miss the point of and even project ("Leo is too mean! He is not nice enough. etc. etc.") If I may say so, His "archetype" is the most competent at finding Truth/Understanding;  from there on, (how it's communicated/shared/executed etc.) is where other "archetypes" may step in such as (referencing MBTI again) ENTJ/ENFJ 

So few people understand these things (.__.")  .......understandably lol

 

[Dabidoe]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No one on the left wants the extinction of mankind. That is so dumb.

Extinction is probably the wrong framework but the "geshtaldt" of what Elon & Jones are getting at is "pro-human" competing with "pro-environment."

Elon's take seems to be that the "leftist death cult" see humanity's growth (population increasing, consumption of energy) to be at odds with "saving mother earth" (limit energy consumption, slow down population growth.)

My take on Elon is that he has become so targetted by endless negative propaganda that his shadow and or mental illness (seems like he goes through mania) has inflamed him to the point of losing common sense. He's convinced that free speech is so righteous a cause that publicly discoursing with mouthbreathers like Jones and Tate speak is somehow a good use of his time. 

Culture wars seem to have a degrading effect on mental health and judgement. 

[Leo Gura]

Calling progressives a death cult is so disingenous and wrong it doesn't even warrant a response other than a Picard facepalm.

And Joe Rogan platforms that trash and people take it seriously.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

ChatGPT has no soul. It is just a simulation. How can you even develop a relationship with a thing with no emotions lol.  

Edited December 13, 2023 by StarStruck

[Dabidoe]

50 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

ChatGPT has no soul. It is just a simulation. How can you even develop a relationship with a thing with no emotions lol.  

A notebook has no soul and yet people develop some very deep relationships with those.