Shouldn't reality be much more simple?

[Javfly33]

I feel the world is completely messed Up by psychological activity. Is insane. Im not saying stepping out of the mind is the final goal and the "ultimate", but at least It would be an incredible good platform for everything else.

I was just wacthing porn now and i just stopped. I realized, what am i even doing? What IS that im trying to achieve? If i observe closely, reality is already Full, Complete, United. 

But that is only if you are in Reality, if you are in the endless mountains of the mind hallucination, then is all about getting the next "fix" of completedness, be It porn, food, relationships, etc...

Nothing wrong with material fun though. Just that using material means to try to feel "full" and "complete" is a hell of a ride that never ends. Once you get the fix, times passes and is over. And then the Next fix. And then Next one. Is truly insane what humans have gotten ourselves into. We are engaged in a never ending race. And It seems we can not get out.

Meanwhile, there is actual Reality, completely full, complete, united, pure... But we can not keep our consciousness focused on this "Life" or Reality Phenomena more than a few seconds...with that quality and activation of awareness (so weak, so disperse into psychological daydreaming) then Life seems to be so complex. 

IMO Is not complex (at least living It, im not saying It understanding It), if you could just stay in It and not go dream constantly in the realms of the mind 

It seems there is a mess of focus within us. Lot of energy going towards Psychological filter, little to actual Observation, Staying Concentrated on what appears. Staying in actual Reality, where we should be all the time.

Isnt It quite insane that we spent most of our time in an hallucination of psychological filter, and very little in actual Reality? 

Shouldnt be the opposite? LOL

If you awareness could remain Focus of the simple phenomena of Reality that surrounds us, such as sounds, breath, light, etc... Would the feeling of "time" exist? No, there would be only exist the Now. Time would not pass.

In the Now things are simple. Reality. Life. Silence. Bliss. No time, no problem... Always in Life. Nothing moves here. No psychological fluctuations. Absolute Stability. What a difference. What a difference of quality of Life.

In the psychological reality though... A day is a hiking trip. A roller coaster of things, goals, fixes, ups, downs, more, less, etc... Quite a dystopic way to Live. 

Will we make It to the to the other end (Living in Reality), not just as a 1 day vacation but as a permanent residency, that's a question for all of us. 

Are we making steps to Life, or are we making steps towards staying more in the  infatuation of the psychological realm. We should investigate this.

[Inliytened1]

16 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I feel the world is completely messed Up by psychological activity. Is insane. Im not saying stepping out of the mind is the final goal and the "ultimate", but at least It would be an incredible good platform for everything else.

I was just wacthing porn now and i just stopped. I realized, what am i even doing? What IS that im trying to achieve? If i observe closely, reality is already Full, Complete, United. 

But that is only if you are in Reality, if you are in the endless mountains of the mind hallucination, then is all about getting the next "fix" of completedness, be It porn, food, relationships, etc...

Nothing wrong with material fun though. Just that using material means to try to feel "full" and "complete" is a hell of a ride that never ends. Once you get the fix, times passes and is over. And then the Next fix. And then Next one. Is truly insane what humans have gotten ourselves into. We are engaged in a never ending race. And It seems we can not get out.

Meanwhile, there is actual Reality, completely full, complete, united, pure... But we can not keep our consciousness focused on this "Life" or Reality Phenomena more than a few seconds...with that quality and activation of awareness (so weak, so disperse into psychological daydreaming) then Life seems to be so complex. 

IMO Is not complex (at least living It, im not saying It understanding It), if you could just stay in It and not go dream constantly in the realms of the mind 

It seems there is a mess of focus within us. Lot of energy going towards Psychological filter, little to actual Observation, Staying Concentrated on what appears. Staying in actual Reality, where we should be all the time.

Isnt It quite insane that we spent most of our time in an hallucination of psychological filter, and very little in actual Reality? 

Shouldnt be the opposite? LOL

If you awareness could remain Focus of the simple phenomena of Reality that surrounds us, such as sounds, breath, light, etc... Would the feeling of "time" exist? No, there would be only exist the Now. Time would not pass.

In the Now things are simple. Reality. Life. Silence. Bliss. No time, no problem... Always in Life. Nothing moves here. No psychological fluctuations. Absolute Stability. What a difference. What a difference of quality of Life.

In the psychological reality though... A day is a hiking trip. A roller coaster of things, goals, fixes, ups, downs, more, less, etc... Quite a dystopic way to Live. 

Will we make It to the to the other end (Living in Reality), not just as a 1 day vacation but as a permanent residency, that's a question for all of us. 

Are we making steps to Life, or are we making steps towards staying more in the  infatuation of the psychological realm. We should investigate this.

The ego is a runaway train.  An animal purely designed for pleasure.  Yes - if you ever stopped to fully become conscious that you are imaginary - you would die.  What fun is it for the ego to think about things like reality and the now.  It's no fun at all because ultimately it leads to the path of its own destruction.   So it would rather delve into more simpler things like porn.   Now, you know what's up - you have had a taste of the now - you have had a taste of mystical experiences.   So now the challenge for you is to strike a balance.  Can you be Godlike or humanlike?

[Breakingthewall]

reality is of unimaginable complexity. The structure of life is created on previous patterns to build increasingly complex cyclical experiences.

What we are, the experience that is taking place, are layers upon layers of interconnected patterns, a work of engineering of a level that only limitless intelligence can design. This intelligence is our intelligence, but it must be unlocked, purified. All reality is synchronous, the exterior and the interior mix. Within your field of consciousness is the totality of existence, but it unfolds infinitely in an order and perfection that we can only intuit.

 It is normal for reality to seem complex, a difficult challenge, that's how it is. It is a movement that must be made, an expansion that cannot be stopped. We have to cease resistance and flow with the flow of reality, then complexity is unimportant, blockages disappear, beauty manifests.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

We have to cease resistance and flow with the flow of reality, then complexity is unimportant, blockages disappear, beauty manifests.

So profound but hard for the egoic structure to accomplish because it is so deeply conditioned and believing it's in control. I have recognized the importance of this and it's role in decreasing mental suffering. If more of us start to realize what you've said here, and work on this, there will be less suffering in the world.

[Bluff]

Reality is so increadible simple that for thought its impossible to understand

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Bluff said:

Reality is so increadible simple that for thought its impossible to understand

Because the mind wants to complicate things. We're not seeing things for what they are, we're seeing things how we are and wanting them to be how we want them to be not realizing that change starts from within. It's simple and complicated at the same time. How we see ourselves is what makes the difference between what side of the coin we relate to.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[strangelooper]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

So profound but hard for the egoic structure to accomplish because it is so deeply conditioned and believing it's in control. I have recognized the importance of this and it's role in decreasing mental suffering. If more of us start to realize what you've said here, and work on this, there will be less suffering in the world.

the egoic structure believing it is in control is part of the whole plan. The ego never once changed anything or went against the flow of the river. Everything is a completely automatic and spontaneous process, the appearance of resistance is still spontaneity, any apparent attempts to control are also entirely spontaneous. It is literally impossible for the egoic structure to have any kind of effect on reality, it is an AI running on precise instructions, it does not have a will of its own or capacity to deviate, meaning the mental suffering is, was and will always be completely inevitable.

[Yimpa]

Life with no challenges is not a life worth living.

[strangelooper]

11 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Life with no challenges is not a life worth living.

Total bull. I can imagine infinite lives with no challenges worth living. Like for example, any life where creativity endlessly flows, where you have vast amounts of freedom, positive and fulfilling relationships, lots of fun things to do and an abundance of resources.

Or a life where you are literally just a tree or any plant that doesn't do anything.

Or a life where all you do is sleep and dream, sleep and dream. sleep and dream. For years on end. 

Or even a life where you sit stationary for 50 years and are deeply immersed in high states of consciousness.

The truth is the exact opposite, too much challenge makes people feel like life isn't worth living. A game that you can't beat is a game you throw in the trash.

Edited December 4, 2023 by strangelooper

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Bluff said:

Reality is so increadible simple that for thought its impossible to understand

Im not talking about understanding! Im talking about living It.!

19 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Life with no challenges is not a life worth living.

Because some of you guys are just masochists 😂

[Yimpa]

10 minutes ago, strangelooper said:

The truth is the exact opposite, too much challenge makes people feel like life isn't worth living. A game that you can't beat is a game you throw in the trash.

There is a major difference between:

• life being too challenging because you’ve allowed others to define what your life should and shouldn’t be
• you taking ownership of your life and embrace challenges that you set for yourself, and how you define reality 

I’ve chosen to throw the first point in the trash. 

[Bluff]

@Princess Arabia

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

we're seeing things how we are

Thats what your Not doing

[Princess Arabia]

51 minutes ago, strangelooper said:

the egoic structure believing it is in control is part of the whole plan. The ego never once changed anything or went against the flow of the river. Everything is a completely automatic and spontaneous process, the appearance of resistance is still spontaneity, any apparent attempts to control are also entirely spontaneous. It is literally impossible for the egoic structure to have any kind of effect on reality, it is an AI running on precise instructions, it does not have a will of its own or capacity to deviate, meaning the mental suffering is, was and will always be completely inevitable.

I don't entirely agree with this. I could be wrong, i just have a slightly different view. According to your statements, and my understanding and interpretation of them, my disagreement with you on this matter is beyond my control also; and that this conversation was destined to happen exactly as it did. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Also, note that my explanation to what I initially said was pertaining to our mental capacity and how we view and perceive things, not actions as in physical doing, as its all mental and we live in a mental Universe. We have the capacity to change our perceptions and to accept or resist what is actually happening. I also understand our decisions and choices are determined by things that are not within our immediate control because of a string of events that lead up to those predetermined apparent choices.

Also please explain what a "spontaneous plan" looks like or is. Both words seem like a contradiction.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Bluff said:

@Princess Arabia

Thats what your Not doing

??

[Bluff]

23 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Im not talking about understanding! Im talking about living It.!

@Javfly33 you are not living reality. You are creating it. Effortlessly.

[Bluff]

@Princess Arabia you are Not Seeing Things as a mirror of yourself

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Bluff said:

@Princess Arabia you are Not Seeing Things as a mirror of yourself

so is my not seeing things as a mirror of myself the same thing as you not seeing that my not seeing things as a mirror of myself is also a reflection of you? Read that again if seem a bit confusing. 

[strangelooper]

16 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I don't entirely agree with this. I could be wrong, i just have a slightly different view. According to your statements, and my understanding and interpretation of them, my disagreement with you on this matter is beyond my control also; and that this conversation was destined to happen exactly as it did. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Also, note that my explanation to what I initially said was pertaining to our mental capacity and how we view and perceive things, not actions as in physical doing, as its all mental and we live in a mental Universe. We have the capacity to change our perceptions and to accept or resist what is actually happening. I also understand our decisions and choices are determined by things that are not within our immediate control because of a string of events that lead up to those predetermined apparent choices.

Also please explain what a "spontaneous plan" looks like or is. Both words seem like a contradiction.

Everything is a projection of consciousness, including the ego's mental world (perceptions, thoughts, feelings). Projections cannot choose to be otherwise from what's projected. The natural state is empty of any "mental world", it's pure awareness with no movement. Anything that moves or flows or changes is part of the projection and thus illusory and ultimately devoid of freedom.

[Yimpa]

Here’s something simple:

I Love You God

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, strangelooper said:

Everything is a projection of consciousness, including the ego's mental world (perceptions, thoughts, feelings). Projections cannot choose to be otherwise from what's projected. The natural state is empty of any "mental world", it's pure awareness with no movement. Anything that moves or flows or changes is part of the projection and thus illusory and ultimately devoid of freedom.

Let me contemplate on this for a minute since I understand the structure of what you're saying.