Russia Bans LGBTQ

[bebotalk]

Russia has always envied the West. If one thinks about it, Western Europe has made Europe what it is as, the dominant part of the world for centuries since the Portuguese voyages of Prince Henry. It's only with the rise of China that the world is reverting to the multi-polar status it had before the Age of Discovery. The Romans were a great people and power, but there were other powerful entities at the same time, such as the Han Dynasty. 

I don't see the surprise of this move by Putin. He's often said anti-LGBT stuff, and it's clear his regime is traditionalist. He can continue brainwashing his people, envying the West, and trying to make Russia as mighty as the USSR was. 

 

[Yimpa]

Meanwhile, I’m planning to do HRT at a clinic that offers their services free of charge. And in the conservative state Texas.

What a paradox!

[rnd]

Russia looked at Europe with their Papa who became gay, with the their toxic, bitter and angry minorities, their middle-unknown-sex she/he/her/it/ello/оно/ and "God-knows-what", with - more importantly - their increasingly population extinction and aging... And decided to do that what will make itself better off. And as a result, for the russians.

 

And Russia also has partially prohibited and restricted abortions. And it'll go further in this.
 

Edited December 3, 2023 by rnd

[Merkabah Star]

On 3/12/2023 at 4:44 AM, PurpleTree said:

I think things like that will backfire 

a country needs freedom to be creative and things like lgbt, psychedelics, freedon of speech etc are freedom

and what’s there without creativity ?

I think it will backfire too. 
 

 

[bebotalk]

6 hours ago, rnd said:

Russia looked at Europe with their Papa who became gay, with the their toxic, bitter and angry minorities, their middle-unknown-sex she/he/her/it/ello/оно/ and "God-knows-what", with - more importantly - their increasingly population extinction and aging... And decided to do that what will make itself better off. And as a result, for the russians.

 

And Russia also has partially prohibited and restricted abortions. And it'll go further in this.
 

And Western Europe still outpeforms Russia, and still drives Europe as the world's leading continent. Russians love their Western Europe banks, sports goods, cars, universities, and properties.  As for xenogenders, that's really a far-left/Western USA thing. It's not that common in Europe or the EU as it stands. 

 

[Adrian colby]

10 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

How is saying gayness isn't normal the same thing as dismissing their experience? 

We would need to highlights the complexities surrounding societal acceptance and the clash between different political approaches. Acknowledging that normalcy is subjective and varies from person to person is a crucial step in fostering understanding. Encouraging empathy and recognizing the diverse nature of individual experiences could serve as a common ground for people with different perspectives. The challenge often lies in finding a balance that respects individual autonomy while fostering a society that embraces diversity. an ability to understand and navigate emotions, perspectives, and diversity effectively requires emotional intelligence and empathy. It goes beyond intellectual intelligence and involves a deeper understanding of human experiences and relationships.

 

patience often plays a key role in promoting understanding. when issues like these are pushed by political structures. Instead of guiding people slowly to understand and accept diversity they don’t allow time to adapt to the changing societal environment even though the diversity in the society has always been there but not accepted, they coerce people into abiding by policy to normalise diversity and make society safe for the multitude of diverse individuals ( that is the liberal politics approach) but the conservative political approach is different in that it tries to create policy for normalisation of only one kind across society and attempts to stamp out diversity making it unsafe for the multitude of diverse individuals. If both sides understood that normal is normal from the point of view of the individual in their own right then there wouldn’t be a problem. What is normal for one person is abnormal for another so trying to project one’s own sense of normal onto another person is lacking in empathy, emotional intelligence and a deeper understanding of why diversity exists. 

 

Think of the trunk of a tree as an analogy to existence. If it only puts down one root in one place it will only be able to gain experience or nutrient from that one area. It will not even be aware it could potentially have access to other experiences or nutrients elsewhere. If it branches out it’s root system to create individual and diverse experiences in different places from different perspectives, it gains access to a richer variety of nutrients ( knowledge, learning, a better grasp on the reality it finds itself in). If those roots fight with or dismiss each others experiences, it limits the tree from gaining a better understanding of itself, dismissing one roots right of freedom to gain experience or nutrients is detrimental to the tree and the other roots. By a root dismissing another root, it is ultimately being detrimental to itself and the entire system to which it belongs. 

 

Recognizing and embracing diversity in experiences, perspectives, and identities enhances our understanding of the multifaceted nature of existence. diversity is crucial for a more comprehensive and nuanced grasp of reality, acknowledging the subjective and varied aspects of human experiences. If diversity didn’t exist then reality being inherently relative would collapse back into the absolute.

 

This really requires thinking very deeply about ‘normalcy’ and realising its subjective nature. Your argument loses its logical foundation when it assumes a universal standard of normalcy based on the perspective of one group while dismissing the validity of another’s experience. This can be associated with the fallacy of ethnocentrism, where one judges another culture solely by the values and standards of one’s own. In this case, it’s applying a single group’s perception of normalcy to the entire spectrum of human experiences without recognizing the diversity of perspectives and identities.

 

when a person experiences their life as normal, normal being a constant or frequent occurrence, it is inherently normal for them. So if it is normal for them then it is not logical for another person who is not homosexual to say it is inherently abnormal. It is abnormal for a heterosexual but normal for a homosexual just as it is normal for a heterosexual to be heterosexual but abnormal for a homosexual. The argument looses its logic when a heterosexual tells a homosexual that it is abnormal for the homosexual to be homosexual. This is making an assumption that one persons experience of normalcy from their persepective is applied across all of humanity not taking into consideration normalcy from other perspectives. 

You’re basing the idea of normalcy on your own experience and identity by dismissing the other as being valid from their own inherent perspective which you do not have access to. 

 

You can’t get your head around it because you’re refusing to let go of your attachment to your own idea of normal. It only applies to you. It’s subjective. 

 

You claim people in spirituality resort to what sounds like political correctness but as I stated above, that’s not the case. What you are doing by saying that is ad hominem. You’re deflecting away from addressing the issue that’s been presented to you by making a personal attack on the individual raising the issue. Albeit incorrectly. Claiming a statement or perspective is  ‘political correct’ misunderstands the nuance within the political sphere which also has a multitude of diversity. It’s about a balance between freedom and restriction. Understanding personal boundaries and the freedom to explore within them. Not imposing on or preventing others doing the same. Cooperating and bringing those experiences back and sharing them to get a higher vantage point of the reality we find ourselves in. Fully understanding all of this means loosing your identity and transcending to the absolute. People fear that because it’s ‘ not normal’ for them.

learning about and adapting to an ever changing reality takes a long time. People can guide you but no one can show you or coerce you to understand. That is something you have to come to by yourself

 

[An young being]

On 03/12/2023 at 6:00 PM, Twentyfirst said:

The best sexual strategy for LGBT people in hardcore places like Russia is to do it under the table and behind closed doors

And the best strategy for Russia to become close to God is to let them out of the closed doors, atleast in steps.

[Twentyfirst]

56 minutes ago, An young being said:

And the best strategy for Russia to become close to God is to let them out of the closed doors, atleast in steps.

Which God are you talking about? Most religions speak against this sort of stuff

[An young being]

32 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Which God are you talking about? Most religions speak against this sort of stuff

The Gods which teach compassion.

[Nemra]

@An young being

He will gaslight you by saying that there are gods who are violent and who's to say which one is true?

Edited December 4, 2023 by Understander

[An young being]

10 minutes ago, Understander said:

@An young being

He will gaslight you by saying that there are gods who are violent and who's to say which one is true?

No issues, let him have fun!

[Twentyfirst]

1 hour ago, An young being said:

No issues, let him have fun!

So if you are born with 8 fingers on one hand is that normal?

[Nemra]

@Twentyfirst

It's not normal that you don't understand what is being said. 

[An young being]

48 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

So if you are born with 8 fingers on one hand is that normal?

If you open your mind, it becomes as normal as having five or even ten fingers.

The problem is not with labeling something as normal or abnormal, it's how your mind uses that belief as a foundation to spin webs of hatred which connects with other suppressed forms of hatred. You may be affected by the closed minded belief that if something is not normal based on my current way of thinking, or what most people think, it can never have the possibility of becoming normal.

Yes, having 8 fingers can be abnormal, if we use the belief to understand evolution or try to reduce the discomfort or suffering caused due to the excess fingers or identify the root cause for it. Instead, if we use the abnormal tag to declare the person with the excess fingers as someone in a lower level than normal, and want them to be tagging themselves as abnormal, it's important to understand the relative nature of what's normal and what's not. It is also important to understand the suffering brought upon by common usage of such tags. My previous posts and others' might help you to understand it if you take time to think about it

 

[Twentyfirst]

3 hours ago, Understander said:

@Twentyfirst

It's not normal that you don't understand what is being said. 

Get out of your bubble and try convincing the entire world of LGBT and you'll see most people will say what I am saying

[Twentyfirst]

2 hours ago, An young being said:

If you open your mind, it becomes as normal as having five or even ten fingers.

The problem is not with labeling something as normal or abnormal, it's how your mind uses that belief as a foundation to spin webs of hatred which connects with other suppressed forms of hatred. You may be affected by the closed minded belief that if something is not normal based on my current way of thinking, or what most people think, it can never have the possibility of becoming normal.

Yes, having 8 fingers can be abnormal, if we use the belief to understand evolution or try to reduce the discomfort or suffering caused due to the excess fingers or identify the root cause for it. Instead, if we use the abnormal tag to declare the person with the excess fingers as someone in a lower level than normal, and want them to be tagging themselves as abnormal, it's important to understand the relative nature of what's normal and what's not. It is also important to understand the suffering brought upon by common usage of such tags. My previous posts and others' might help you to understand it if you take time to think about it

 

Funny how you think I have hatred towards gays

If everyone in the world was gay human population would cease to exist. Straight needs to be the majority for societal reasons 

[hoodrow trillson]

^Bro is straight up deepthroating the Fox News/right wing anti-LGBTQ talking points lmao

 

[Nemra]

@Twentyfirst 

This is not that difficult to get.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Understander

[Princess Arabia]

49 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Straight needs to be the majority for societal reasons 

Any other rules we should live by. Gay-minded people are living straight lifestyles to fit into your paradigm and are depressed about it. Society is fucked and dysfunctional. So give another reason for why it's best for societal reasons.

[Sincerity]

@Twentyfirst You are treading a thin line with your posts.

We are open here and You can express your opinions rather freely, but homophobia we will not tolerate.