Omnivore vs. Vegan - Randomized Controlled Trial in Twins! (new study)

[Jason Actualization]

4 hours ago, undeather said:

Ok the Budoff study - which has exactly the problem I mentioned in my previous post. You won't see many changes in someone's CTA after 1-2 years of high LDL, especially in young adults. The sensitivity of CTA-procedure is just not high enough to give you that data. If he shows me the same result after 10 years, I would be impressed.

I have just marked my Google calendar to revisit this conversation in 10 years, with the hope that such data will have surfaced prior to that point in time.

I truly appreciate your intellect and the depth and breadth that you've brought to this discussion. It would seem, after observing and appreciating the same puzzle pieces as yourself, I have arranged them such that I see a different picture than you do, albeit, one that is extremely self-consistent, at least to me.

I appreciate the difference in conclusions that have been arrived at here, and I hope that the divided opinions on this ordeal will, over time, merge into one unifying understanding that we can all hang our hats on.

If, at any point in time, during the remainder of my human life here, I am overwhelmed with evidence to the contrary of the aforementioned, utter convictions, I will revisit this post and personally apologize for my ignorance.

[undeather]

1 hour ago, Jason Actualization said:

I have just marked my Google calendar to revisit this conversation in 10 years, with the hope that such data will have surfaced prior to that point in time.

I truly appreciate your intellect and the depth and breadth that you've brought to this discussion. It would seem, after observing and appreciating the same puzzle pieces as yourself, I have arranged them such that I see a different picture than you do, albeit, one that is extremely self-consistent, at least to me.

I appreciate the difference in conclusions that have been arrived at here, and I hope that the divided opinions on this ordeal will, over time, merge into one unifying understanding that we can all hang our hats on.

If, at any point in time, during the remainder of my human life here, I am overwhelmed with evidence to the contrary of the aforementioned, utter convictions, I will revisit this post and personally apologize for my ignorance.

Those are very kind words! Thank you! 
I apprechiate your honesty and good faith nature - I also kind of get why you think what you think! Going through a personal health crisis and seeing how the current medical paradigm fails to adress the underlying cause while healing oneself  through alternative approaches ignored by the orthodoxy, changes the way one thinks about this whole situation.

And boy... am I jealous of that hairline! 
Cheers mate!

[Charlotte]

Interesting as I was just looking at this exact study yesterday as it was posted on the UK NHS health app 

[Leo Gura]

Breaking new study:

Eating human flesh lowers LDL by 10%.

[Yimpa]

[Schizophonia]

54 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Breaking new study:

Eating human flesh lowers LDL by 10%.

I knew I wasn't crazy, thanks Leo 

[undeather]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Breaking new study:

Eating human flesh lowers LDL by 10%.

This study was sponsered by the Jeffrey Dahmer foundation.

[Leo Gura]

The other white meat.

[Davino]

I'm a noob in nutrition compared with you all. I always ate a very healthy organic omnivore diet. However, a year and a half ago I switched to a vegetarian diet and just can talk wonders about it. I struggled in the beggining but after going to a nutrionist I was able to feel better than ever!

 

[Charlotte]

4 hours ago, undeather said:

This study was sponsered by the Jeffrey Dahmer foundation.

😅