2 questions about solipsism

[Someone here]

Omg.. solip-fucking-Ism again 😆 

We should include the word "Solipsism " in the heading of this subforum. Lol

Solipsism is a belief. Literally just let go of it.  Pretend as if you've never heard of it before. 

 

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Omg.. solip-fucking-Ism again 😆

Lmao.. What exists must always exist. Lol..lol..lol..

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

We should include the word "Solipsism " in the heading of this subforum. Lol

Or change the name of the website to Solipsisize.neverending

[Someone here]

@Princess Arabia Leo is stating absolute solipsism is true.. absolute..or the truth. 

Imo this is actually a fantasy. the claim of absolute solipsism is actually a purporting & aggrandizing of the ego or the false  separate self. I am stating (for reasons precisely as the unnecessarily difficult experiences you've gone through in your thread about being alone) Leo’s shared perspective is actually delusional..in that it overlooks solipsism is a limited worldview like any other Intellectual isolation or "ism".

 

 

[Someone here]

You can't encapsulate infinity . Be it solipsism or materialism etc.  Both are false. Reality is an appearance. 

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Princess Arabia Leo is stating absolute solipsism is true.. absolute..or the truth. 

Imo this is actually a fantasy. the claim of absolute solipsism is actually a purporting & aggrandizing of the ego or the false  separate self. I am stating (for reasons precisely as the unnecessarily difficult experiences you've gone through in your thread about being alone) Leo’s shared perspective is actually delusional..in that it overlooks solipsism is a limited worldview like any other Intellectual isolation or "ism".

 

 

I still hold on to the notion that I, as Awareness, is all that exists as I have never experienced anything outside of it. Princess Arabia is not all there is but my true nature is. That's how I see it. I AM Awareness. Consciousness, God, the I AM, whatever you want to call it. Anyone thinking Solipsism has to do with the false egoic self doesn't understand what the term even means. I get the belief part and the isms part, but at the end of the day language is just a pointer, it's dualistic and it's limited.

Edited November 29, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I still hold on to the notion that I, as Awareness, is all that exists as I have never experienced anything outside of it. Princess Arabia is not all there is but my true nature is. That's how I see it. I AM Awareness. Consciousness, God, the I AM, whatever you want to call it. Anyone thinking Solipsism has to do with the false egoic self doesn't understand what the term even means. I get the belief part and the isms part, but at the end of the day language is just a pointer, it's dualistic and it's limited.

Great 👍.  I agree. 

But leo actually claims that Princess Arabia is the only conscious mind in existence . The solipsism video is still available on YouTube you can watch it and hear the misinformation from Leo's part.

Whether or not "other people " are real or fantom projections of your mind literally does not matter...because you still have to deal with them . 

Solipsism isn't doing anyone any good . Just drop it .

[Carl-Richard]

29 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Anyone thinking Solipsism has to do with the false egoic self doesn't understand what the term even means.

Solipsism can certainly have something to do with the egoic self. There are many different types of solipsism. You just have to clarify which type of solipsism you're talking about. The Absolute type of solipsism this forum is so obsessed about is actually an extremely uncommon type of solipsism in the larger culture, which is why people get so confused when the term is brought up.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

Solipsism can certainly have something to do with the egoic self. There are many different types of solipsism. You just have to clarify which type of solipsism you're talking about. The Absolute type of solipsism this forum is so obsessed about is actually an extremely uncommon type of solipsism in the larger culture, which is why people get so confused when the term is brought up.

Oh..didn't realize that. Thanks for the clarification. Not that I hold what you said to be so, but at least I'm aware that there are notions out there or beliefs that there are different types of Solipsism. Thanks.

[MrTelepath]

2 hours ago, OBEler said:

@Signs and Symbols is the one dead because of solipsism? 

 

Did you saw leo's  video after solipsism of infinity of gods? 

Thats more what I was referring to. Here it is possible that outside your bubble exist other souvereign bubbles but as soon as you connect with them it's your bubble again 

That video confuses me a little bit. I get that Sovereignty eludes to having complete authority, reign and power. Isn't there only one infinite God that dreams up the entire universe? If there's an Infinity of Gods then would that mean “I” the human is GOD but another human self is also another infinite GOD? Wouldn't the fact that there are an infinite number of GODS contradict what Leo was saying in his other video pertaining to Solipsism?

I think he also stated that it’s impossible to know whether or not these other GODS (apart from your Godhead) exist and that you can only go as far as to establish a connection with them. I could be wrong, though! It’s been a while since I’ve seen the video.

Edited November 29, 2023 by Shrooms_Alvarez

[OBEler]

@Shrooms_Alvarez yes it is a bit contradicted to solipsism video and some aspects are different but the Overall message is the same: solipsism is absolut truth. 

If you connect with another God, he becomes you. So still there is only you. And vice versa for the other God, you become him

(I hope I got it right, just watched and try to remember) 

Edited November 30, 2023 by OBEler

[De Sade]

17 hours ago, Signs and Symbols said:

So are you saying that you do not have an experience of your own?  I have an experience, or at least an apparent experience of my own. 

 

[Signs and Symbols]

Yes De Sade

1 hour ago, De Sade said:

 

Yes that's the video on absolute solipsism I'm talking about. 

[Signs and Symbols]

Everyone here who is saying that I should drop it as a belief - I want it to be true, and I suspect it is true, that's why I'm interested.  On top of that, Leo has said that it is true, and friends of mine have told me it was true under the influence.  So it's not something that brings me misery.  I think it sounds like paradise

[OBEler]

@Signs and Symbols then you know the method. Taking 5 meo a lot of times should revealed this truth according to Leo. Just philosophing about is difficult

[Signs and Symbols]

It's so far from what Leo said in his absolute solipsism video.  He said that he (and you) are literally just dream figures that go out of existence when I die.  Once you hear that, everything else seems pretty dry, honestly

[Javfly33]

On 29/11/2023 at 4:27 AM, Signs and Symbols said:

1.  Besides the deleted solipsism video is there anywhere else that Leo has said that he doesn't actually exist as an independent observer other than a projection of my own mind?  As in, claimed to not have independent awareness?

2.  If suffering (ours and others) is used as buy-in for keeping the belief in reality alive, than why is it that suffering actually is what pushes us to wake up?  Wouldn't a god who wanted to keep the illusion going make life better, potentially unending,  and filled with comforts, riches, and pleasures?

From where did you get the point 2) ?

[Javfly33]

On 29/11/2023 at 7:31 PM, Someone here said:

 

We should include the word "Solipsism " in the heading of this subforum. Lol

 

😂😂

[Signs and Symbols]

What is the point to any other discussion other than solipsism?  To me it seems that Leo let the cat out of the bag with plausible deniability but that basically that was the end-all be-all of everything

[Signs and Symbols]

20 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

From where did you get the point 2) ?

leo's solipsism video