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UFO Believer on DENIAL by evidence from VFX Expert

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On 2023-11-29 at 0:42 AM, Juan said:

Some people are too involve on rabbit holes like the guy being interviewed. 

   How is that an argument against the existence of UFO phenomena? Let's me just grant you that if this Malaysian airplane disappearance by UFOs was a fake, and you are right that this video is a fraud, does one fake video, or one act of fraud, discount the entire metaphysics, epistemology, and the whole UFO phenomena? Does one fabricated video justify skeptics debunk mentality and claims that UFOs are not real, and don't exist?

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On 12/1/2023 at 7:19 PM, Danioover9000 said:

   How is that an argument against the existence of UFO phenomena?

Nobody is arguing against UFO phenomena if you watched the video, this is just a specific case where a VFX artist is proving this case false while a UFO believer who studied also the case is on denial.

On 12/1/2023 at 7:19 PM, Danioover9000 said:

   Let's me just grant you that if this Malaysian airplane disappearance by UFOs was a fake, and you are right that this video is a fraud, does one fake video, or one act of fraud, discount the entire metaphysics, epistemology, and the whole UFO phenomena?

No, obviously.

On 12/1/2023 at 7:19 PM, Danioover9000 said:

  Does one fabricated video justify skeptics debunk mentality and claims that UFOs are not real, and don't exist?

No, obviously, this is the same question you did before this one but written differently. 

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On 2023-11-29 at 0:42 AM, Juan said:

Some people are too involve on rabbit holes like the guy being interviewed. 

 

On 2023-12-03 at 2:03 AM, Juan said:

Nobody is arguing against UFO phenomena if you watched the video, this is just a specific case where a VFX artist is proving this case false while a UFO believer who studied also the case is on denial.

No, obviously.

No, obviously, this is the same question you did before this one but written differently. 

   But the outcome and result of this discussion is going to get weaponized by the polarizing views of the debunking skeptics versus the believers of this UFO phenomena, so if this Malaysian airplane disappearing is false, then those who are biased and prefer for UFOs existing will get dogmatically defensive while the dogmatic skeptics glee, but if Malaysian airline is real, it actually disappeared, then the reverse happens. These binary back and forth of those who argue for and against this phenomena, are gridlocked into proving their little biases of the truth are real and better than the other's view of truth, so it's mainly to persuade and convince and propagate an ideology in the back of their minds to spread onto other minds.

   What both perspectives on this issue ignore and are ignorant of, is that their ego minds construct narratives and attach meaning to whatever happens in the world. The ego mind doesn't like unknown, has a fear of unknowns because narratives are harder to construct at an unknown, so the mind creates concepts/ideas/beliefs on top of the actual unknown event/thing, so the ego minds of the believers believe blindly in the concepts/ideas of those unknown phenomena and even spirits/ghosts and other paranormal/supernatural events, but away from the ACTUAL UNKNOWN of what those concepts point to. Likewise the same for skeptics and debunkers and scientific materialists dogmatically believing in the physical world, they also have ego minds that construct an anti narrative about the unknown things/events as imaginary and fictional, on top of the ACTUAL UNKNOWN, attacking and undermining a fantasy image of the actual unknowns, like Big Foot and UFOs for example, both the believers and non-believers arguing for their version of the actual unknown.  

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