The most powerful meditation in existence (original audio)

[ivankiss]

@Vibroverse Yes. Bashar's enlightenment is well over 9000. He knows what's up. 

Maybe he could teach Leo a thing or two about alien love.

[Vibroverse]

22 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Vibroverse Yes. Bashar's enlightenment is well over 9000. He knows what's up. 

Maybe he could teach Leo a thing or two about alien love.

Yeah, i find bashar to be pretty knowledgeable also, even if there are a few things i cannot wrap my mind around about the nature of time and alternate worlds, and all those crossconnections, and so on. It is being too complicated sometimes. 

However, i find abraham's message to be more useful, in that sense, about slowly releasing your resistance by quieting your mind, and increasing your level of receptivity gradually and comfortably, so to speak. 

Abraham sounds too cheesy sometimes, but i sometimes feel like it might actually be a frickingly high frequency slowing itself down to be more understandable and relatable, maybe, haha. 

 

Edited December 1, 2023 by Vibroverse

[Vibroverse]

And yeah, leo, bashar and abraham, and some more other few teachers, are usually in my vibrational team. I often feel their energy around me when i vibrate high. They are like the different flavours of a pretty similar, in essence, frequency. 

 

[ivankiss]

@Vibroverse Interesting. I was always more into Bashar... I listened to quite some Abraham too, but I never subscribed 100% to either one of them. I took what resonated and seemed relevant, the rest I kind of ignored.

I took bits and pieces from a handful of teachers, and here we are. Now it is perfectly clear that I did the right thing by not following blindly any of them. Rather, putting my own maps together. Walking my own path, with a few good advices and pointers from those guides and mentors in my pocket.

[Vibroverse]

7 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Vibroverse Interesting. I was always more into Bashar... I listened to quite some Abraham too, but I never subscribed 100% to either one of them. I took what resonated and seemed relevant, the rest I kind of ignored.

I took bits and pieces from a handful of teachers, and here we are. Now it is perfectly clear that I did the right thing by not following blindly any of them. Rather, putting my own maps together. Walking my own path, with a few good advices and pointers from those guides and mentors in my pocket.

Yeah, they are all kinda like guides on the road to guide you to your own inner being, to your own alignment, directly. Some call it raising your vibration, some call it surrendering to the stillness, some call it being the awareness, and so forth. 

 

[Vibroverse]

The trippy thing is, the more you release resistance the more you begin to realize that they are all actually talking about the same thing, because it is all you talking to yourself, damn. 

But there is such a thing as gradually releasing your resistance, because the human mind cannot comprehend such levels of being. 

But the human mind can feel and resonate with such levels of being, i guess, where it receives as much as it is relevant or meaningful, or available, for him, in a sense. 

 

Edited December 1, 2023 by Vibroverse

[ivankiss]

@Vibroverse I like to look at what they're all 'agreeing' on. And that tends to be consciousness and Love. 

I would not equate raising one's vibration with surrendering to the stillness, or abiding as pure awareness... Those are different things, in my eyes. But it's just me.

You are talking to yourself, yes. But not the way it is usually (mis)interpreted. If one is not actually awake, rather stuck in some fancy solipsistic spiritual belief, and they think they're just talking to themselves... that's a mental disorder. Not oneness.

[Vibroverse]

3 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Vibroverse I like to look at what they're all 'agreeing' on. And that tends to be consciousness and Love. 

I would not equate raising one's vibration with surrendering to the stillness, or abiding as pure awareness... Those are different things, in my eyes. But it's just me.

You are talking to yourself, yes. But not the way it is usually (mis)interpreted. If one is not actually awake, rather stuck in some fancy solipsistic spiritual belief, and they think they're just talking to themselves... that's a mental disorder. Not oneness.

Yeah, i think it is all actually the same thing, letting yourself close the vibrational gap with who you really are, as abraham says. I think it is the same thing that, probably, leads one to absolute nondoership, in a sense, so to speak. 

In my opinion they are all actually saying the same thing, in a sense, if we can hear it from the "correct" perspective which might be, as you called it, love. 

And yeah, i think it can be called solipsism if we talk about it as the nondual awareness and being where there is only one that is, but i don't think that it is me, this personality, that is the one where ivankiss is not real, ya. 

 

[ivankiss]

33 minutes ago, Vibroverse said:

Yeah, i think it is all actually the same thing, letting yourself close the vibrational gap with who you really are, as abraham says. I think it is the same thing that, probably, leads one to absolute nondoership, in a sense, so to speak. 

In my opinion they are all actually saying the same thing, in a sense, if we can hear it from the "correct" perspective which might be, as you called it, love. 

Yeah, you do have a point. It's when you get really technical, that's when all the fine detailed differences hold some importance. But overall, they're all talking about the same thing, doing or not doing the same thing.

I'm really excited about the math side of it all. I studied it already quite a bit. The whole eiθ = icosθ + isinθ deal. 

I think there is an accurate (post) calculation that can be a mathematical representation, or explanation of consciousness. Or at least, how consciousness moves and behaves. It is possible to put that into a mathematical model. Into a mathematical language.

Source is absolutely not bound to any mathematical rules or laws. That I know for sure. But can math come super duper close to Source? Or even create some sort of a grid, or overlay? Definitely.

Music made anything at possible for me. Music... is so much more than just music, to me. It is Truth. In so many ways. Personal and trans - personal.

All great thinkers came across this, when contemplating the structure of reality, at one point or another. But I would argue that very few, if any, took it all the way and in the right direction. Nevertheless, they all contemplated deeply and seriously about frequencies, vibrations, and all that biz.

 

The self transformed into wave lengths
Reverberating this unyielding dream

 

 

[Vibroverse]

2 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Yeah, you do have a point. It's when you get really technical, that's when all the fine detailed differences hold some importance. But overall, they're all talking about the same thing, doing or not doing the same thing.

I'm really excited about the math side of it all. I studied it already quite a bit. The whole eiθ = icosθ + isinθ deal. 

I think there is an accurate (post) calculation that can be a mathematical representation, or explanation of consciousness. Or at least, how consciousness moves and behaves. It is possible to put that into a mathematical model. Into a mathematical language.

Source is absolutely not bound to any mathematical rules or laws. That I know for sure. But can math come super duper close to Source? Or even create some sort of a grid, or overlay? Definitely.

Music made anything at possible for me. Music... is so much more than just music, to me. It is Truth. In so many ways. Personal and trans - personal.

All great thinkers came across this, when contemplating the structure of reality, at one point or another. But I would argue that very few, if any, took it all the way and in the right direction. Nevertheless, they all contemplated deeply and seriously about frequencies, vibrations, and all that biz.

 

The self transformed into wave lengths
Reverberating this unyielding dream

 

 

Donald Hoffman and his team are trying to do that, trying to explain consciousness mathematically. I think it's possible, why not, but it will be just one of the possible models, probably. 

Science and mathematics are kinda like arts to me, means through which you are creating products, forms, and so, i don't think it is possible to find THE mathematical model, but i think you can create, or discover, so to speak, the model that resonates with you. 

 

[ivankiss]

59 minutes ago, Vibroverse said:

And yeah, i think it can be called solipsism if we talk about it as the nondual awareness and being where there is only one that is, but i don't think that it is me, this personality, that is the one where ivankiss is not real, ya. 

They way most people here and beyond this forum interpret it, it really makes no difference from classic NPD. Ever seen a full blown narcissist talking to someone? They are really talking to themselves. They see no real person in front of them. They have zero interest in what they have to say. They are literally unable to listen. To them, there is already no one on the other side. It's all just them, in their one and only, true, solipsistic reality. They are omnipotent and they get what they wanna get, by whatever means necessary. Sounds like God, right?

Fuck no. Couldn't be further from the truth. Has nothing at all to do with Oneness. It's a legit mental disorder.

 

[Vibroverse]

5 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

They way most people here and beyond this forum interpret it, it really makes no difference from classic NPD. Ever seen a full blown narcissist talking to someone? They are really talking to themselves. They see no real person in front of them. They have zero interest in what they have to say. They are literally unable to listen. To them, there is already no one on the other side. It's all just them, in their one and only, true, solipsistic reality. They are omnipotent and they get what they wanna get, by whatever means necessary. Sounds like God, right?

Fuck no. Couldn't be further from the truth. Has nothing at all to do with Oneness. It's a legit mental disorder.

 

Yeah, unless you can totally let go of your personal self, then it is some sort of a crazy thing where you think that you, as a person, are the only thing that exists. I believe that you are really the only thing that exists, but not as ivankiss. 

And that's why our emotional awareness and resonance are so frickin important as some sort of a navigational system, because otherwise we get lost in all sorts of screwed up modes. 

 

[MysticalSnow]

9 hours ago, ivankiss said:

A cat is no more or less God than me or you. Surely it is possible for one to shape shift into a cat or a dragon or whatever else. No doubt. But not before one's enlightenment reaches level 9000.

"Enlightenment" is Asian delusion. It's literally a myth, or at the very least has so many different contradicting meanings it could mean anything. It doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with frequency, vibration, energy. That could be a wholly different thing.

Leo has read the Carlos Castaneda books, but I don't think he learned too much from it.

Otherwise he might be able to modulate his consciousness without so much drugs.

Sorcerers and Shamans seem to be the only ones who shapeshift.

The Koreans had some legends about shapeshifting ancient martial artists.

But it's really obvious they don't know how to do those things these days.

Yogis might do that, but with their eyes closed. Wearing a diaper.

It's not really something you'd want to be learning. Even they don't want to be doing that. They just need some money, or they'd have to get a job at "Pakora King" in Bengaluru.

Remember that famous daisy-screwing Guru, Maharishi?

When he died his taxi cab brother tried to take over. Might even have been better as a guru than Maharishi himself.

But honestly, they can't shapeshift. They only dream of such things. Literally.

To shapeshift you have to move your assemblage point down to the bottom of your back. To what our lineages called "The Shift Below". And they don't even know about the assemblage point.

No one doing closed eye Asian mediation ever gets off that green line way up near the shoulder blades. At least not on a regular basis. So they never learn to shapeshift.

Oddly, there's random crazy people in Mexico who manage to do it.

We read the story in the books written by Carlos of the guy who turned into a large dog so he could steal cheese from the neighbor.

Got shot and killed.

Apparently a "WereDog" if fair game for shooting in Mexico.

So how come he was able to do that, when it's so very hard to learn to be a "seer"?

Because it's only a movement down to the red zone. Power plants can get you down there.

But no further.

Psychedelic users are confused about reality.

The "red zone" is the level of "enhanced meaning".

Everything is meaningful down there! Even total nonsense is meaningful.

Psychonauts like to drug themselves down to there, and sit and absorb all the "meanings".

So they can go brag to their buddies about the new additions to their collection of "meaningful events". Add to their psychonaut inventory of "knowledge".

They find it all VERY meaningful, so they come here thinking they have a trick to get to silent knowledge.

But silent knowledge is the OPPOSITE.

Nothing has meaning over there. Everything is expected, nothing seems to be anything but oddly random, and you don't even get excited about successfully doing miracles.

But what could be more fun than turning into a Jaguar, like the old seers?

Can we do both?

And as I recall, La Catalina and Julian liked "werewolf sex".

And it turns out that once you have that "energy body" surrounding you, you can now shapeshift safely.

There's no risk of being stuck by that activity.

The best analogy I can come up with is perhaps, if you had a 13 year old son who liked the 16 year old neighbor girl, who was known to "play with the boys", if he went over to her house when her parents weren't home that would be like shapeshifting in the red zone.

Big risk.

But if he went to the public library with her, and it was a locked library so that they couldn't sneak out the back, the risk of "excessive fun" is minimal.

That's what Silent Knowledge is like.

You're in the vast library of all human knowledge.

And so if you happen to crawl along on your mattress looking at the "whitish light on surfaces" that Carlos told us to find and realize your hand is turning into a Black Puma's paw, you might suddenly realize "Of course you can shapeshift in silent knowledge!"

You'll find it obvious at that point.

It's not an intense revelation that might hook you on shapeshifting everyday, and finding someone to share shapeshifting sex with.

It's just more cool things about Silent Knowledge and the various presentation methods it can utilize.

And even when you realize you can turn into a black puma, there's 100 better things to do right there all around you.

The memory of those can't often be retrieved and brought back here.

I suppose you could say, in Silent Knowledge you are ALWAYS shapeshifted.

Into something more non-human. A being that doesn't have to think in a linear, time oriented progression of memories.

Two things can even be taking place at the same time!

Another reason the thrill of shapeshifting is not present at that position of the assemblage point.

Our normal reality is just a flow of linear perceptions.

Shapeshifting in the red zone is also.

A series of smaller events, spaced out in time.

But out in Silent Knowledge time can go forwards, backwards, sideways, and even loop.

[Justdoit247]

On 29/11/2023 at 6:24 AM, ivankiss said:

There are no states, in actuality. Feeling blissful is just a side effect of getting closer to your true nature.

The experience of the blissful feeling you are talking about is just the very very first experience. I can relate to your feeling. All you feel is the contrast from the previous state though. It is still a lower state compared to where can go further. To burst those bubble is also very hard. You can do that only from the next state. But if you believe there are no states then you can’t go further. It’s simple as it is.

In any case, congrats for reaching that point! But remember, it’s all fluid, you can’t hold it so easily. You need to work a lot. And if I have to compare your technique with all what I know, it should be very hard to go further with that one. But if you don’t know other then you can try.

wish you great success 😊

and take care  🍀