UFOs Are Here

[CARDOZZO]

25 minutes ago, OBEler said:

This scientist has a great explanation for linking DMT aliens to real world UFOs:

sorry can't summarize, just watch:

 

His books are extremely unique.

Love his work!

[zurew]

35 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because you can't fix stupid.

People can't even apply my work, and you expect them to listen to aliens??

I don't really buy the "you can't fix stupid" once you have extremely advanced tech.

Imagine having access to stuff where your whole psychology is mapped out and you know exactly what each person gets persuaded by and how to change their beliefs and with what arguments and or with what actions and demonstrations. Also having access to knowledge where you can alter a creature's cognition in such a way that you can make it much more intelligent and spiritually inclined and maybe even enlightened.

You can also alter human  DNA  or whatever else necessary in such a way where you 10x or 100x each person's ability to focus , concentrate and to self reflect and to do spiritual practices like yoga meditation contemplation.

Once you have extremely advanced tech, you can probably even change our memories and deepest preferences and desires and likes and dislikes.

Edited October 7 by zurew

[What Am I]

10 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Realisation and becoming more councious always has to happen within oneself and with their own free will and choice.

You can never force an ignorant and unconcious person conscious or realised. (Not claiming I'm realised or concious I'm also very much of an ignorant myself in many ways)

But it can never be forced.

You have to teach them like a child and be patient with them.

Goodluck telling someone what you're doing is limited and not right and not the best for you without them being willing to listen to you; it will backfire very badly.

So if aliens do exist and are way more conscious than us then they have to do it in the same manner as well; gradually without enforcement making us more conscious.

I agree with everything you're saying as far as a human's efforts towards gaining spiritual awareness. But I think it could be a leap to assume with certainty that it's typical of all advanced species.

When you take a close look at our situation, it's actually quite odd that first-person spiritual awakening is something that needs to be strived towards. And it's even more odd that most of humanity don't realize it's even a possibility. A reasonable comparison would be a population of majestic birds who live their lives walking in the mud, somehow entirely unaware of their own powerful wings, which instinct should compel them to use.

Why is it that humans aren't able to easily utilize our own innate capacities? Why is there seemingly a thing called "ego" which prevents, and is in fact the antithesis, of spiritual advancement? Does it make sense to assume this bizarre scenario is standard for all higher forms of life? My guess has always been that this isn't normal.

[What Am I]

6 minutes ago, zurew said:

I don't really buy the "you can't fix stupid" once you have extremely advanced tech.

Imagine having access to stuff where your whole psychology is mapped out and you know exactly what each person get persuaded by and how to change their beliefs with what arguments and or with what actions and demonstrations and having access to knowledge where you can alter a creature's cognition in such a way that you can make it much more intelligent and spiritually inclined and maybe even enlightened.

Also  you can alter human  DNA  or whatever else necessary in such a way where you 10x or 100x each person's ability to focus , concentrate and to self reflect and to do spiritual practices like yoga meditation contemplation.

Once you have extremely advanced tech you can probably even change our memories and deepest preferences and desires and likes and dislikes.

Agreed, I have little doubt their technology could easily boost a person towards very high spiritual attainment. In all likelihood, even their natural spiritual presense would be enough to quickly burn through layers of human delusion.

[What Am I]

32 minutes ago, OBEler said:

This scientist has a great explanation for linking DMT aliens to real world UFOs:

Very cool, thanks, I'll check this out. I'm aware of his work with extended DMT breakthroughs via IV infusions.

[zurew]

6 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Agreed, I have little doubt their technology could easily boost a person towards very high spiritual attainment. In all likelihood, even their natural spiritual presense would be enough to quickly burn through layers of human delusion.

The instance of good and caring and non-sociopathic advanced aliens I would expect them to make those changes on us, on the other hand,  in the case advanced evil aliens - I would expect them to put us in a simulation, and constantly wiping our memory to the point - where we don't even remember that they fucked with us or fucking with us right now 

[What Am I]

2 minutes ago, zurew said:

The instance of good and caring and non-sociopathic advanced aliens I would expect them to make those changes on us, on the other hand,  in the case advanced evil aliens - I would expect them to put us in a simulation, and constantly wiping our memory to the point - where we don't even remember that they fucked with us or fucking with us right now 

Yeah, what you're describing is closer to what I imagine is actually happening. Although like I said in an earlier post, It could be that they have a posture of neutrality as opposed to evil. But who the fuck knows lol. It's probably very difficult for a less advanced consciousness to comprehend their motives.

[zurew]

17 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Yeah, what you're describing is closer to what I imagine is actually happening. Although like I said in an earlier post, It could be that they have a posture of neutrality as opposed to evil. But who the fuck knows lol. It's probably very difficult for a less advanced consciousness to comprehend their motives.

Yeah and there are other options as well, I just layed out what seems most straightforward to me.

Maybe they have completely different morals but they are well intentioned.

Maybe there are some other reasons that I can't even comprehend right now.

Maybe they are out there they just havent found us yet.

Many options are compatible with their existence and with them being good or neutral.

I just reject the idea that if they are caring and good that they would prioritize our free-will over our development and well -being . The free will argument is whats brought up in some esoteric texts like the law of one and thats what mostly brought up by new age people who are into this stuff. Channelers like Bashar (if I am not mistaken) says the same thing as well (as far as I understand, and basing it on the limited amount of content I have consumed about this)

Edited October 7 by zurew

[Ero]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Because you can't fix stupid.

People can't even apply my work, and you expect them to listen to aliens??

Bars. Reason why I believe the aforementioned acceleration will only deepen social and economic inequality - unless you already running, you will never catch up before lift-off and some people can't even get their ass out of bed. 
 

No coincidence the “interface with the Gods” has always been limited to select few.

[What Am I]

3 minutes ago, zurew said:

Yeah and there are other options as well, I just layed out what seems most straightforward to me.

Maybe they have completely different morals but they are well intentioned.

Maybe there are some other reasons that I can't even comprehend right now.

Maybe they are out there they just havent found us yet.

Many options are compatible with their existence and with them being good or neutral.

All very worthy theories.

3 minutes ago, zurew said:

I just reject the idea that if they are caring and good that they would prioritize our free will over our development and well being . The free will argument is what brought up for example in some esoteric texts like in the law of one and thats what mostly brought up by new age people who are into this stuff and channelers like Bashar (if I am not mistaken) says the same thing as well (as far as I understand, and basing it on the limited amount of content I consumed about this)

Yes, those types of channeled messages do seem to be a source for that particular way of interpreting the phenomenon. And hell, maybe they're right. But I just feel like I've seen enough pieces of the puzzle that don't fit, that I have no choice but to wonder what life on earth for humans is really all about. I wouldn't be surprised to find out the answer is nuanced.

[Atb210201]

49 minutes ago, What Am I said:

I agree with everything you're saying as far as a human's efforts towards gaining spiritual awareness. But I think it could be a leap to assume with certainty that it's typical of all advanced species.

When you take a close look at our situation, it's actually quite odd that first-person spiritual awakening is something that needs to be strived towards. And it's even more odd that most of humanity don't realize it's even a possibility. A reasonable comparison would be a population of majestic birds who live their lives walking in the mud, somehow entirely unaware of their own powerful wings, which instinct should compel them to use.

Why is it that humans aren't able to easily utilize our own innate capacities? Why is there seemingly a thing called "ego" which prevents, and is in fact the antithesis, of spiritual advancement? Does it make sense to assume this bizarre scenario is standard for all higher forms of life? My guess has always been that this isn't normal.

Well if your hypothesis is correct then I guess we will have to just wait and see if aliens are gonna upgrade us if they are aware of our existence or not

[What Am I]

13 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Well if your hypothesis is correct then I guess we will have to just wait and see if aliens are gonna upgrade us if they are aware of our existence or not

Yeah, should be super interesting to see where it all goes.

[Atb210201]

16 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Yeah, should be super interesting to see where it all goes.

Yes, it should be interesting for sure.

Edited October 7 by Atb210201

[Jannes]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Because you can't fix stupid.

People can't even apply my work, and you expect them to listen to aliens??

Do you think stupid can fix itself at a slow pace then or do you think human intelligence will and is hitting a wall because of its lower intelligence potential which can only be overcome with a new genetic makeup?

[mmKay]

Have you ever thought that, to the aliens, we are the aliens ?

 

[Yog]

8 hours ago, What Am I said:

There's no doubt that contacts have seemingly trended towards humans who are more advanced in their capacity for conscious awareness, and especially a natural tendency for capabilities like telepathy. I wonder why that is.

It takes high consciousness and honesty to handle high vibrational telepathic contact.

For 99% of people, even for many of those who see themselves as developed, spiritual, or seekers to the very least, if a UFO just starts landing near them, they will lose their shit and have an existential crisis on the spot even before the "object" lands. When you get exposed to the high frequency of these beings that are eons more emotionally intelligent than you are, your psyche will be completely transparent to them. Not only that, their presence in your "headspace" will be unmistakable, you will know that this is not your regular monkey mind. All your fetishes, porn tastes, wrongdoings, personal failures, betrayals, fears, and secrets, to repeat, known and !unknown! to you will become as transparent as clear glass to them.

But in your POV, especially now that your survival mind is on overdrive and you are feeling the rush. It will feel like a violation of your personal space that you are so used to keeping it to yourself. What you'll perceive is being psychically probed without your permission and you'll ascribe ill intent to them. Also, this processing of the survival mind, mixed with the love that will radiate from them might add a layer of being sexually wanted/being psychically raped. So what most will likely do is run with the first hunches of any of this.

It's not that most people can't get "a direct" telepathic contact because of their low consciousness, it's that they won't be able to handle it. So it is never done in a direct and explicit manner.

Edited October 7 by Yog
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[What Am I]

26 minutes ago, Yog said:

It takes high consciousness and honesty to handle high vibrational telepathic contact.

For 99% of people, even for many of those who see themselves as developed, spiritual, or seekers to the very least, if a UFO just starts landing near them, they will lose their shit and have an existential crisis on the spot even before the "object" lands. When you get exposed to the high frequency of these beings that are eons more emotionally intelligent than you are, your psyche will be completely transparent to them. Not only that, their presence in your "headspace" will be unmistakable, you will know that this is not your regular monkey mind. All your fetishes, porn tastes, wrongdoings, personal failures, betrayals, fears, and secrets, to repeat, known and !unknown! to you will become as transparent as clear glass to them.

But in your POV, especially now that your survival mind is on overdrive and you are feeling the rush. It will feel like a violation of your personal space that you are so used to keeping it to yourself. What you'll perceive is being psychically probed without your permission and you'll ascribe ill intent to them. Also, this processing of the survival mind, mixed with the love that will radiate from them might add a layer of being sexually wanted/being psychically raped. So what most will likely do is run with the first hunches of any of this.

It's not that most people can't get "a direct" telepathic contact because of their low consciousness, it's that they won't be able to handle it. So it is never done in a direct and explicit manner.

Ah, you're certainly an interesting fella. I've never come across your posts before. I very much appreciate the opportunity to read the words of someone who knows their shit. Great detail; the image you paint is palpable.

Yeah, what you're describing sounds accurate to how I've seen physical encounters retold. I can't claim to have first-hand experience with telepathy, except perhaps during strong DMT trips where the presence of higher entities, along with an outpouring of cosmic wisdom, is clearly felt. I'd have to imagine that a physical encounter may be even more powerful still. And I agree, it seems telepathic communication with these beings is possible for both the lesser and greater of us.

Is your description based on stuff you've read, or is there some direct experience in your history?

[Eskilon]

This should be interesting