You weren't convinced of "Game gets you laid" because they made a good argument

[numbersinarow]

You were convinced because the alternative is to say that physical characteristics and other things are extremely important.

Are there flaws in your face or not? That's an extremely important question.

Do you have opportunities or not? That's an extremely important question.

Here's a rundown of why there might not be:

Dating apps are a scam, the hypergamy is even more severe on them than in real life and that's saying something. Men outnumber women there 10 to 1.

Going to bars only highlights the lack of opportunities in other places, but it's literally 95% men who look like they failed at the punk lifestyle.

Cold approaching in the street is for socially unaware people. It's not even vaguely a good idea.

I'm not going to cover other things because there being 0 opportunities for a socially isolated male is too obvious for it not to be itself a point of agreement which then has different responses, not something to be discussed itself. It would be obvious to you too if you tried. There's nothing you have to offer to self-interested social systems either.

Now to add on top of this, imagine you were below average looking, and imagine someone telling you "just have game bro, these techniques will make you attractive," or "just magically create money out of nowhere to get an apartment in a big city for the sake of it's hyper-competitive nightlife where women have the exact same foundation and approach to finding people, but there will be even MORE of them to reject you, doesn't that sound good?"

[NoSelfSelf]

I dont understand what you talking about?  Game is not about techniques and has nothing to do with nobody and nothing else but you.

[Raze]

7 hours ago, numbersinarow said:

 

Now to add on top of this, imagine you were below average looking, and imagine someone telling you "just have game bro, these techniques will make you attractive," or "just magically create money out of nowhere to get an apartment in a big city for the sake of it's hyper-competitive nightlife where women have the exact same foundation and approach to finding people, but there will be even MORE of them to reject you, doesn't that sound good?"

This is a straw man, no one is saying it’s magic. The point is just like with anything else there are strategies and skills to be more effective and efficient you can learn.

Just logically things like online dating or cold approach while they have challenges will be preferable than the alternative of doing nothing as you have more opportunities. A thousand low chance opportunities will net more results than one high chance opportunity.

There isn’t evidence to declare looks or the end all be all, most evidence suggests for a man’s attraction and success looks matter less to gain interest. And this is evidence just looking at averages, if you purposefully study and practice how to get better results you are no longer average.

You declare dating apps are a scam, bars don’t work, and cold approach is for the unaware, and therefore there are no opportunities for a socially isolated male. Except there are opportunities, you just dismissed them because they aren’t perfect. Many people meet partners from dating apps, bars, and cold approach, it isn’t easy but they are opportunities.

No one is convinced game gets them laid because they made a good argument, they are convinced when they apply it and it works for them. If it doesn’t they will dismiss it.

Edited November 19, 2023 by Raze

[SeaMonster]

If you need to even entertain the argument that game gets you laid, you are either severely autistic or so socially backward/inexperienced that you've never actually experienced anything to draw your own conclusions. (In other words, a COVID kid perhaps.)

There is no "argument." It's 100% observable reality if you care to observe a large enough sample.

Try not to overthink things.  People get REALLY stupid about this subject.

Cold approach is for morons who can't read body language, frankly.  If you're reading women, it's not "cold approach" -- it's warm approach.

Edited November 19, 2023 by SeaMonster

[CARDOZZO]

On 11/19/2023 at 9:24 AM, numbersinarow said:

You were convinced because the alternative is to say that physical characteristics and other things are extremely important.

Are there flaws in your face or not? That's an extremely important question.

Do you have opportunities or not? That's an extremely important question.

Here's a rundown of why there might not be:

Dating apps are a scam, the hypergamy is even more severe on them than in real life and that's saying something. Men outnumber women there 10 to 1.

Going to bars only highlights the lack of opportunities in other places, but it's literally 95% men who look like they failed at the punk lifestyle.

Cold approaching in the street is for socially unaware people. It's not even vaguely a good idea.

I'm not going to cover other things because there being 0 opportunities for a socially isolated male is too obvious for it not to be itself a point of agreement which then has different responses, not something to be discussed itself. It would be obvious to you too if you tried. There's nothing you have to offer to self-interested social systems either.

Now to add on top of this, imagine you were below average looking, and imagine someone telling you "just have game bro, these techniques will make you attractive," or "just magically create money out of nowhere to get an apartment in a big city for the sake of it's hyper-competitive nightlife where women have the exact same foundation and approach to finding people, but there will be even MORE of them to reject you, doesn't that sound good?"

Your hope is contagious, thanks.

[Spiral]

Men who focus on women fail. It’s always been that way.

It’s not the way.