What is true Liberation?

[Someone here]

I recently came across a quote by Sadhguru:

“If you use your activity to entangle yourself ..that is called Karma. If you use the same activity to liberate yourself.. that is called Dharma.”

This quote simply intrigued me. I kept wondering ...don’t we literally get entangled in our day to day chores ? Atleast myself.. I tend to keep thinking for hours long on the outcomes or the result of a task I did. I literally get attached to the result so much so that it gets difficult for me to focus on any other task at hand.

But then I also wondered..is there any other way out of this? Like what does it mean to be liberated? 

If I just lock you up in a room.. if you're tired and sick.. you  will  say :give me two meals a day..I don't mind.. I will sleep here only. No problem....right ?

But you want to do something more..right ?don't we spend most of our short lives indoors like a chosen prison?(yes ..60-80 years is fucking nothing)

 So my point is..If you lost all enthusiasm and energy for life ..all your dreams and desires ..you will only want to sleep. It seems like Mahasamdhi and complete and total formlessness forever is the only "salvation " possible 🤔 .

[Thought Art]

Uh, but if you are this void are you truly liberated? By being that you aren’t so many other things. 
 

Dharma is a good concept in the way he uses it here. 
 

As a human you can contemplate relative forms of liberation and dharma for skillful living. 
 

When it comes to deep forms of liberation I’ve experience it on psychedelics, but it’s unrealistic to expect it to last forever.

[hyruga]

You don't get entangled so easily if you are wealthy. Say you have millions of dollars in your bank and you have an ongoing deal going on worth 10k, whether or not the buyer eventually buy doesn't affect you as much because you are already rich. 

But ultimately what you need is health. If you are tired and sick, then you can't travel/move out/have more fun.

[Thought Art]

@hyruga haha some of the most entangled are millionaires 

[hyruga]

54 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@hyruga haha some of the most entangled are millionaires 

Well I put the word that they don't get entangled 'so easily' if they are wealthy.

But anyway millionaires entangle themselves by adding in more stuff to stuff their mind. They bought in more companies, more cars, yachts, bitcoins and property and maybe get in more conflict and legal battles.

Edited November 15, 2023 by hyruga

[Razard86]

10 minutes ago, hyruga said:

Well I put the word 'less easily'.

But anyway millionaires entangle themselves by adding in more stuff to stuff their mind. They bought in more companies, more cars, yachts, bitcoins and property and maybe get in more conflict and legal battles.

You got it. The more you have...the more entangled you will be. In a sense their world is bigger, more connections to keep making and defending.

Edited November 15, 2023 by Razard86

[VeganAwake]

Liberation is the end of that needy ME character trying to attain it.

It's the end of that sticky self construct that's never satisfied.

Liberation is already the case but the self illusion feeling seperate and lacking, goes on an endless mission to find wholeness within wholeness.

❤️ 

Edited November 15, 2023 by VeganAwake
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