Who was Muhammad?

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Nabd said:

Nothing is mentioned in the Quran regarding images or so.

Most things "Islamic" today are just Hadiths and biographies written some hundreds of years after the death of Mohamad.

 

It's sure that when that coin was minted, Muslims were not prohibited from representing human figures, which indicates that Islam was defined over time.

[Sabth]

You know, Aisha was the greatest female scholar because she lives with the prophet and she was young when the prophet died, and she became the mother of all believers. And she lives a long life after the prophet had died. 

@Breakingthewall

33:6: "The Prophet is closer to the believers than their selves, and his wives are (as) their mothers" is applied to all of the wives.

Here if you don't believe in Hadeeth, the Quran mentioned about the prophet's wives. And Aisha's specialty is the hadith. 

@Nabd

Edited November 16, 2023 by Sabth

[Sabth]

He knows it because he is the people of the book. The book before the Quran. So that's why he knows. From his previous prophet. 

18:00

[Thought Art]

I would like to learn more about him.

I don’t think you can judge him with a modern Lens though. You’d have to study deeply the historical contexts he was alive in. 
 

He definitely wasn’t perfect or the last prophet in my mind. 

Edited November 16, 2023 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

On 2023-11-15 at 6:40 AM, Breakingthewall said:

It seems quite obvious that he was not a real mystic, his message is obligation and prohibition. tribalism, hatred of those who are different, punishment and slavery. an intelligent medieval leader.

This is a mistake. You can’t judge whether he was an authentic mystic based in this because humans have multiple lines of development which bis comes more clear when you study Ken Wilbur’s work.

[PurpleTree]

What religions did Syrians have before Islam and Christianity @Nabd ?

[PurpleTree]

2 hours ago, Nabd said:

Canaanite and Mesopotamian paganism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_religion

https://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/aramean-religion

The Jewish bible is heavily influenced by Canaanite religion. In fact they found earlier version of some psalms in Ugarit well before Judaism was established.

Some of the pagan practices are still around and they found their way into daily life and folklore dances and songs. There is a song which no one knows the origin of today but it refers to the goddess Ishtar.

There are also groups of people who follow religions from pre-christian times like Mandaeans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaeans

good stuff

those religions seem much more fun than abrahamic. Although there are so many beautiful churches and mosques and sufism seems cool. But i’d rathe go back to those than have islam etc

[PurpleTree]

51 minutes ago, Nabd said:

Yeah Phoenicians probably sacrificed children though

Oh well

nobodys perfect

kids are annoying anyways 

[jaylimix]

The Bible copyright infringed the Tanakh, add a new chapter, by someone/group

The Quran copyright infringed the Bible, add a new chapter, by someone/group.

Can't say any of the characters in all the above books ever existed.

But what is for sure is the writers of these scrolls/letters/books existed.