Why do PUAs tell us things that are absurdly oversimplified or just blatantly false?

[something_else]

29 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Like I said people hate this 

I wonder why

[The0Self]

1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

People hate this but a big key is to realize that you are above the woman

Men are the superior gender therefore just treat her as a lesser being and sort of do whatever you want without her regard without while still staying respectful

The entire life of a woman is trying to pretend like she is equal to you to gain more power she knows she's lesser but she can't ever break character

Like I said people hate this 

Close, but wrong.

You are not above a woman, you’re equal, and not less than her either. That’s the true frame that also works best for game.

Think you’re above her if you want to have the highest chance of women thinking you’re a fucking weirdo. Go ahead and try it. The ones that fall for it are the lowest quality anyway.

That said, the reason I said “close,” is that you do want to be coming from a place of “stepping up” and inspiring her to “step up” with you. Confidently/bravely.

Edited November 22, 2023 by The0Self

[Twentyfirst]

6 hours ago, The0Self said:

Close, but wrong.

You are not above a woman, you’re equal, and not less than her either. That’s the true frame that also works best for game.

Think you’re above her if you want to have the highest chance of women thinking you’re a fucking weirdo. Go ahead and try it. The ones that fall for it are the lowest quality anyway.

That said, the reason I said “close,” is that you do want to be coming from a place of “stepping up” and inspiring her to “step up” with you. Confidently/bravely.

How are women equal to men? Why would nature make a biological DIFFERENCE?

[something_else]

3 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

How are women equal to men? Why would nature make a biological DIFFERENCE?

Yes there are biological differences, but those do not make one gender categorically superior to the other like you imply.

[UnbornTao]

@Twentyfirst Sexism not allowed.

[The0Self]

10 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

How are women equal to men? Why would nature make a biological DIFFERENCE?

In VALUE. Not function or attribute.

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, The0Self said:

In VALUE. Not function or attribute.

No one is “worth” anything.

[The0Self]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

No one is “worth” anything.

Than all are equal in value.

But as far as game goes, you can definitely be worth a lot, or not a lot, relatively speaking.

Edited November 22, 2023 by The0Self

[Leo Gura]

On 11/12/2023 at 2:51 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

For example I love the menstrual process, I find it more than just fascinating to talk about

WTF??

You obviously lack basic social awareness. 

Rule #1 when talking to girls: Don't talk about creepy shit.

When the content of what you say is creepy and weird, that creates a creepy, repugnant, anti-social vibe.

Whenever you talk to a stranger you need to talk about things they would be interested in. You don't open a conversation with a stranger by passionately talking about how much you like to stick your fingers in your ass. You have to be attuned to what normal people are interested in, and what women tend to be interested in.

Edited November 24, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

WTF??

You obviously lack basic social awareness. 

Rule #1 when talking to girls: Don't talk about creepy shit.

When the content of what you say is creepy and weird, that creates a creepy, repugnant  anti-social vibe.

Whenever you talk to a stranger you need to talk about things they would be interested in. You don't open a conversation with a stranger by passionately talking about how much you like to stick your finger in your ass. You have to be attuned to what normal people are interested in.m, and what women tend to be interested in.

I know that women are very interested in erotic novels like 50 shades of grey. Is there a way to bring that into a conversation with a girl you just met?

[CARDOZZO]

@Emotionalmosquito

First approach: introduce yourself, be calm, talk about basic shit, ask for a number.

On a date you can go deep with her on different topics.

 

Edited November 23, 2023 by CARDOZZO

[CARDOZZO]

Menstrual process? Hahahahahaha

You got me with that.

Girls hate it.

 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

I know that women are very interested in erotic novels like 50 shades of grey. Is there a way to bring that into a conversation with a girl you just met?

Don't assume all girls are into all that romantic lovey dovey shit. 50 shades of grey and all that are for middle aged house wives who hits on the hot cable and pizza delivery guy and mailman or pool maintenance. Real hot, sexy, kinky spontaneous, knock your rocks.off kind a gal is into American psycho type shit.

Don't mind me, I have 2 personalities type A and C and that's sober, don't get me to drinkin', then that's when I need me some Krueger type shit.  

 

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, Hardkill said:

I know that women are very interested in erotic novels like 50 shades of grey. Is there a way to bring that into a conversation with a girl you just met?

No! This is creepy shit.

Be fun and easy-going. None of this serious creepy shit.

You guys fundamentally misunderstand what vibing with a girl is. Your problem is much more fundamental than picking up girls. You simply don't understand how to be social and how to party. Work on that first.

Edited November 24, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No! This is creepy shit.

Be fun and easy-going. None of this serious creepy shit.

You guys fundamentally misunderstand what vibing with a girl is. Your problem is much more fundamental than picking up girls. You simply don't understand how to be social and how to party. Work on that first.

What's creepy about that, especially when sex has become more widespread all over the media than ever before and we are living a more sexually liberated society than ever before? 

Besides, I am not naturally a party person. That's never been a part of a core of my personality. I tried being that way for years, but too many people thought I came off as a too much of a try hard.

Edited November 24, 2023 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

@Hardkill It's creepy, pathetic, and needy. Stop trying to talk about sex.

Vibe with a girl the way you would play with a child.

Edited November 24, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Hardkill It's creepy, pathetic, and needy. Stop trying to talk about sex.

But the sex shown in advertisements, magazines like cosmopolitans, movies/tv shows, porn, art, etc. is not creepy, pathetic, and needy?

 

Edited November 24, 2023 by Hardkill

[mmKay]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No! This is creepy shit.

Be fun and easy-going. None of this serious creepy shit.

i usted to belive that as well but this dude does It so masterfully I fell in love with storytelling. He's like the Quentin Tarantino of Game, and surprisingly non-sketchy for a PUA ( at least in this one video )

i consider this NLP Hypnosis storytelling to be something to do if you really really enjoy It snd definitely not make It the core of your game or something you would focus your first half decade . And make It as genuine and little " manipulative" as possible.

sharing this because of relevance to @Hardkill 50 shades of grey question lol, even though that's absolutely not what he needs right now

Edited November 24, 2023 by mmKay

[StarStruck]

You can talk about everything thing you want as long as she still has a perception of safety and freedom. So if you want to talk about sex just do it. Because the topic is not important. You can talk about cats but if she feels a creepy vibe you are done.  

[Girzo]

@StarStruck any topic can work in theory when having a conversation, but some topics are waaay easier to fuck up, like sex, which is why hardkill should reaaally avoid it.