Leo, have you tried high-dose Thiamine?

[Bogdan]

I've been astounded by this. I'll let the videos speak for themselves, I urge all of you to research this

I already started with low doses. I'll give updates.

 

[PurpleTree]

i tried it for chronic fatigue, not much benefit though

[Bogdan]

@PurpleTree what form did you take and in what dose?

[flowboy]

Tried it to supplement my nootropic / brain health stack, but it gave me zits.

I've read that it can have benefits with schizophrenia, so I wouldn't be surprised if some other conditions are helped by it which could be related to birth trauma / early infant trauma, such as colitis, IBS, and the like. Who knows. Should be tried.

I just stick to my regular B complex which has some of it but not a high dose.

[PurpleTree]

7 hours ago, Bogdan said:

@PurpleTree what form did you take and in what dose?

I think 100-300 mg

mostly thiamine hydrochloridium

a frw yrs ago

 

[Bogdan]

Well that's why it didn't work. Thiamine hcl is used only in the beginning, to ease your way into it, and when you reach 400mg with no paradoxical effect (momentary worsening of symptoms) then you go and use the real potent stuff - TTFD.

 

And you're supposed to work up to really high doses of TTFD.

[Bogdan]

@flowboy I'm curious, what form did you take?

[PurpleTree]

26 minutes ago, Bogdan said:

Well that's why it didn't work. Thiamine hcl is used only in the beginning, to ease your way into it, and when you reach 400mg with no paradoxical effect (momentary worsening of symptoms) then you go and use the real potent stuff - TTFD.

 

And you're supposed to work up to really high doses of TTFD.

Yea that’s really hard to find here

benfotiamine also

[Leo Gura]

I have tried all kinds of B vitamins. Don't recall the doses.

Nearly all vitamins I tried do nothing for me.

Edited November 11, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Schizophonia]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have tried all kinds of B vitamins. Don't recall the doses.

Nearly all vitamins I tried do nothing for me.

For chronic fatigue ? Did you tried the following things :

-Pregnenolone  (https://meassociation.org.uk/2017/02/the-science-behind-queensland-governments-cfs-breakthrough-statement-science-alert-22-february-2017/), i also guess MB would help if it's a mitochondrial issu.

-Alpha-1-adrenergic agonists 

-Highly norepinephrinergic products (Bupropion).

-Fenclonine  

 

[docs20]

7 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

For chronic fatigue ? Did you tried the following things :

-Pregnenolone  (https://meassociation.org.uk/2017/02/the-science-behind-queensland-governments-cfs-breakthrough-statement-science-alert-22-february-2017/), i also guess MB would help if it's a mitochondrial issu.

-Alpha-1-adrenergic agonists 

-Highly norepinephrinergic products (Bupropion).

-Fenclonine  

 

They are NOT vitamines or supplements though, they're proper drugs

Edited November 11, 2023 by docs20

[WaltJ]

Those of you interested in exploring B vitamins be sure to try methylated forms of B, as well as TMG (trimethylglycine), if you struggle with chronic fatigue, digestion issues, and brain fog. There is a common genetic mutation called MTHFR, which means your body cannot process B vitamins without the correct form of B vitamins. I personally have the MTHFR gene. Anyone can test for it, as well as other genetic mutations which may likely be the bane of your health issues. I use a brand called AOR B complex or ATP Lab Methyl SynerB. Both are great. The difference in my energy, clarity, wellbeing and ability to heal (I'm an athlete) was night/day after taking methylated B vitamins. Both creatine and glycine help as well in the methylation cycle. 

Edited November 12, 2023 by WaltJ

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

On 11/11/2023 at 1:49 AM, Leo Gura said:

I have tried all kinds of B vitamins. Don't recall the doses.

Nearly all vitamins I tried do nothing for me.

Even methylcobalamin shots?? No way.

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

On 11/11/2023 at 11:58 AM, docs20 said:

They are NOT vitamines or supplements though, they're proper drugs

They are brainfog agents is what I call them. Takes you too far from your standard state. Makes doing consciousness work harder.