What the fuck is Consciousness?

[Breakingthewall]

20 hours ago, Adrian colby said:

yeah I’m a perception within consciousness and all narratives consciousness conjures up about its forms or existence on this side of the mirror are a way of justifying their existence as real, dissecting them and creating ever deeper stories about them is consciousness expanding itself out, separating itself into more and more ‘things’, decentrating itself…another deception because consciousness itself is still an occurrence within awareness. To get back to awareness it concentrates back to single pointedness or singularity. 

There are many ways to see the infinite void that is everything. When I have reached states of total dissolution, what I have seen is what the absence of limits means. It is absolute freedom. Reality is totally free, and that freedom is total joy. that total joy of being, the wonder of the limitless depth in which everything is, absolutely everything, nothing can be better, or more perfect. From that joy of existing, reality manifests itself in forms, in experiences, it draws from the infinite games drawer more beauty, more love, more joy, more depth and complexity in harmony. all existence is absolutely harmonious, perfect. existence does not deceive itself by hiding anything, it simply happens. everything happens, there is no one behind doing it, it creates himself because it can. The fact that you seek a mystical experience and open yourself to total absolute infinity means nothing, infinity is always the case, the self that opens or not is temporary. You are not God, reality is, and you are only an illusion formed by the appearance of a center of perception necessary for the experience to occur. When the experience ceases, you cease, you are a temporary soldier with a mission, to allow this experience to be. What remains does not look anything like the you that right now perceives itself. It is the total unlimited space that is.

It is extremely difficult to let that stubborn me fall completely and disappear into the living infinity, because the center always wants to capture the experience, control it. And when that door opens, you are in totally unknown territory. The self doesn't like that at all, he needs control, so it's always pushing to have control. It's difficult to educate oneself to be able to don't try to grab and control , but I'd say it's possible to open a lot the now, much more than we can imagine

Edited November 5, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Adrian colby]

13 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

There are many ways to see the infinite void that is everything. When I have reached states of total dissolution, what I have seen is what the absence of limits means. It is absolute freedom. Reality is totally free, and that freedom is total joy. that total joy of being, the wonder of the limitless depth in which everything is, absolutely everything, nothing can be better, or more perfect. From that joy of existing, reality manifests itself in forms, in experiences, it draws from the infinite games drawer more beauty, more love, more joy, more depth and complexity in harmony. all existence is absolutely harmonious, perfect. existence does not deceive itself by hiding anything, it simply happens. everything happens, there is no one behind doing it, it creates himself because it can. The fact that you seek a mystical experience and open yourself to total absolute infinity means nothing, infinity is always the case, the self that opens or not is temporary. You are not God, reality is, and you are only an illusion formed by the appearance of a center of perception necessary for the experience to occur. When the experience ceases, you cease, you are a temporary soldier with a mission, to allow this experience to be. What remains does not look anything like the you that right now perceives itself. It is the total unlimited space that is.

It is extremely difficult to let that stubborn me fall completely and disappear into the living infinity, because the center always wants to capture the experience, control it. And when that door opens, you are in totally unknown territory. The self doesn't like that at all, he needs control, so it's always pushing to have control. It's difficult to educate oneself to be able to don't try to grab and control , but I'd say it's possible to open a lot the now, much more than we can imagine

Absolutely. And I recognise that experience. 

[Adrian colby]

3 hours ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

Consciousness itself is asking this question. How do you narrow down that which is fundamental to all inquiry? How do you narrow down that which is fundamental to the process of narrowing down anything?

Go through the enquiry to first distinguish itself against something that it is not. It is an endless exploration till that side of infinity is realised and the inquiry ceases and goes silent. All seeking while in the form of character has to begin with the dialectic till it is realised as a fruitless exercise. One must go through the exercise to learn.  If it is in essence nothing with no boundary, it can only ‘be’ but cannot know. If it creates itself into a mind or some order or ability to know things in other words consciousness, it can simulate an infinity of attributes or ‘somethings’. To know itself as something rather than nothing but at its core it is always absolute and nothing. In consciousness it’s always moving, in awareness it stops and concentrates back into a singularity. 

[Adrian colby]

On 05/11/2023 at 10:51 AM, Razard86 said:

I Love you!!! Finally another true seeker!!! Thank you for the post....you got it!!! Such wonderfulness to see another true seeker....

😉🤗. May the endless exploration of consciousness lead to new heights of confusion and insanity and all of it is ok no matter how mad it gets. Jump in. We can always rest ourselves back at the still point before the next round. And ‘I’ love all my other angles of perception even though ‘this one’ cannot see them directly, they are the eyes through which I come to know all things 🤗

[Razard86]

On 11/5/2023 at 2:42 PM, Breakingthewall said:

There are many ways to see the infinite void that is everything. When I have reached states of total dissolution, what I have seen is what the absence of limits means. It is absolute freedom. Reality is totally free, and that freedom is total joy. that total joy of being, the wonder of the limitless depth in which everything is, absolutely everything, nothing can be better, or more perfect. From that joy of existing, reality manifests itself in forms, in experiences, it draws from the infinite games drawer more beauty, more love, more joy, more depth and complexity in harmony. all existence is absolutely harmonious, perfect. existence does not deceive itself by hiding anything, it simply happens. everything happens, there is no one behind doing it, it creates himself because it can. The fact that you seek a mystical experience and open yourself to total absolute infinity means nothing, infinity is always the case, the self that opens or not is temporary. You are not God, reality is, and you are only an illusion formed by the appearance of a center of perception necessary for the experience to occur. When the experience ceases, you cease, you are a temporary soldier with a mission, to allow this experience to be. What remains does not look anything like the you that right now perceives itself. It is the total unlimited space that is.

It is extremely difficult to let that stubborn me fall completely and disappear into the living infinity, because the center always wants to capture the experience, control it. And when that door opens, you are in totally unknown territory. The self doesn't like that at all, he needs control, so it's always pushing to have control. It's difficult to educate oneself to be able to don't try to grab and control , but I'd say it's possible to open a lot the now, much more than we can imagine

Everything is God. God is nothing, everything is nothing, so....there is only God. It is your ego that says something is not God...which is itself a division. Reality is God, so whatever appears is God. To say some part is not the whole is the actual delusion. It's why I keep saying, you don't know love. All you know is division.

[Yimpa]

Consciousness is consciousness expanding when Leo hasn’t uploaded a new Actualized episode in months.

It’s like reverse psychology!

[Loveeee]

17 hours ago, Loveeee said:

Absolute means without an opposite, non-dual

For example, consciousness is a facet of the absolute. There couldn't not be consciousness. That possibility is just a belief

Same goes for intelligence, love, etc. This 

Not this and that, here and there, now and then 

Only this/here/now, which makes it infinite 

 

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Everything is God. God is nothing, everything is nothing, so....there is only God. It is your ego that says something is not God...which is itself a division. Reality is God, so whatever appears is God. To say some part is not the whole is the actual delusion. It's why I keep saying, you don't know love. All you know is division.

On 5/11/2023 at 0:36 AM, Adrian colby said:

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You don't understand, It's a way to explain what is the self, to be able to dissolve it. I know you don't like anyone deviating from the dogma of actualized, what you think is your awakening, but I think we have to be flexible and try to understand reality directly and freely.

[Adrian colby]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

You don't understand, It's a way to explain what is the self, to be able to dissolve it. I know you don't like anyone deviating from the dogma of actualized, what you think is your awakening, but I think we have to be flexible and try to understand reality directly and freely.

It is understood and your experience of it is also understood. What you yourself have described is also what has been experienced here. Descriptions vary and may sound different but are pointing at the same thing. This is not based on actualised dogma as the experience of dissolution happened before actualised, philosophy, spirituality or even psychedelics came into my sphere of reality so it cannot be ‘based’ on it. If it sounds similar then we are finding synchronous descriptions of an experience. 
 

what I’m reading from your post is that you think we are conflating awakening with the ‘description’ of self dissolution? 
 

 

[Breakingthewall]

@Adrian colby I quoted you by accident, I was answering Razard, who correct me saying, you don't know what is love, etc, because i said: you are not god, meaning that the self is a construction and it's very difficult to get out of if. 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Razard86]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Adrian colby I quoted you by accident, I was answering Razard, who correct me saying, you don't know what is love, etc, because i said: you are not god, meaning that the self is a construction and it's very difficult to get out of if. 

This is what you wrote in the past.

 

[Adrian colby]

54 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Adrian colby I quoted you by accident, I was answering Razard, who correct me saying, you don't know what is love, etc, because i said: you are not god, meaning that the self is a construction and it's very difficult to get out of if. 

That’s ok. I’m still interested in what you are saying. 🤗

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Adrian colby said:

what I’m reading from your post is that you think we are conflating awakening with the ‘description’ of self dissolution? 

I think that the idea: I'm god and I'm imagining the reality is wrong. It is a wrong turn that takes as its center what is circumstantial.

The self is created in the dual appearance, without it there is no self, and there are no others. If reality dissolves until there is no differentiation, it manifests as an infinite abyss of existence. This is what we really are. Since there are no limits, this happens, the mystery of existence, the glory, you can call it god.

But what is being talked about here is not that, but rather what this experience is. Saying that it is a dream, a mental image of that "god" is total nonsense imo, it is not like that at all because when you say that it is because you confuse God with the self, and if you do that you stay forever in the surface, flat, lifeless

Edited November 7, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Razard86 said:

This is what you wrote in the past.

 

I want to express that you are not god because "you" is just the feeling of a center. What you really are now is the experience that is happening, and that is a manifestation of reality, and therefore, it is reality, so yes, it can be said that you are God. But what is not correct is to say: you are God and you are imagining reality, because God is not someone and is not imagining anything, there is no one behind doing anything, it is reality that, being infinite, manifests itself infinitely, it is much more complicated than: God (whatever that is) is bored in his infinite love, so he imagines a show and creates a set to fool himself into having an adventure. It is not that, it is not something personal that someone does, there is no someone, what it is is the living infinity, something incredible that arises from the fact that there are no limits, an inevitable natural phenomenon: infinite existence, and that is what we are. but the configuration of that is very mysterious and complex, and the substance of reality is infinity, there is nothing else because that thing is everything, and that means that a snot from your nose is the complete infinity. This means that it is impossible to capture it with the structured mind because this mind only creates mental schemes, you have to capture it with your infinite essence, going beyond the structures.

[Razard86]

55 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I want to express that you are not god because "you" is just the feeling of a center. What you really are now is the experience that is happening, and that is a manifestation of reality, and therefore, it is reality, so yes, it can be said that you are God. But what is not correct is to say: you are God and you are imagining reality, because God is not someone and is not imagining anything, there is no one behind doing anything, it is reality that, being infinite, manifests itself infinitely, it is much more complicated than: God (whatever that is) is bored in his infinite love, so he imagines a show and creates a set to fool himself into having an adventure. It is not that, it is not something personal that someone does, there is no someone, what it is is the living infinity, something incredible that arises from the fact that there are no limits, an inevitable natural phenomenon: infinite existence, and that is what we are. but the configuration of that is very mysterious and complex, and the substance of reality is infinity, there is nothing else because that thing is everything, and that means that a snot from your nose is the complete infinity. This means that it is impossible to capture it with the structured mind because this mind only creates mental schemes, you have to capture it with your infinite essence, going beyond the structures.

1. YOU are making that interpretation. That is why I put it in bold. Notice how you are creating that distinction, and you are doing it because your ego took that. 

Now let's say this again.....there is ONLY GOD. So you literally cannot ever say you are not God unless you are ego. What is ego? Ego is that which DENIES that it is God but TRIES to be GOD. The only reason you are not unlimited is because you have to DENY that you are. The ego is LITERALLY SELF-DENIAL. What do you think distinction is? DENIAL. What do you think your entire life is? DENIAL.

So when you say you are NOT GOD, you are LITERALLY DOING WHAT THE EGO WANTS YOU TO DO. That is all I am pointing out. Only the ego thinks its arrogant to say its God, because the ego is arrogant by nature. Only the ego thinks it alone can speak for God because again the ego is arrogant. The ego cannot be anything but arrogant, because that is its nature. It's like asking water not to be wet.

So again....God is EVERYTHING. You love to say not to place limits, yet the moment you say something ISN'T GOD you just placed a limit.

Also in that thread that I linked you made. You said these words "I snap my fingers and infinite universes containing infinite universes containing infinite universes form in my mind." 

^^^This is correct, because you are MIND you can imagine infinite universes.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Razard86

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Also in that thread that I linked you made. You said these words "I snap my fingers and infinite universes containing infinite universes containing infinite universes form in my mind."

I said that and it was wrong, God is not someone who does anything, that interpretation is normal because we cannot understand that something is done without an agent. It is something subtle but fundamental, since when you believe that you are God imagining reality, that you that is positioned as the cause is really the effect. The problem with doing this is that it closes off the possibilities of a real opening. 

When I said that of I snap my fingers it is because I took a psychedelic and had a vision of infinity, of how the absence of limits caused infinite realities to unfold, but the subsequent interpretation of: I snap my fingers and that happens, is wrong. no one causes the unfolding of infinite reality, it is an inevitable consequence of infinity

[Razard86]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I said that and it was wrong, God is not someone who does anything, that interpretation is normal because we cannot understand that something is done without an agent. It is something subtle but fundamental, since when you believe that you are God imagining reality, that you that is positioned as the cause is really the effect. The problem with doing this is that it closes off the possibilities of a real opening. 

When I said that of I snap my fingers it is because I took a psychedelic and had a vision of infinity, of how the absence of limits caused infinite realities to unfold, but the subsequent interpretation of: I snap my fingers and that happens, is wrong. no one causes the unfolding of infinite reality, it is an inevitable consequence of infinity

That vision of infinity...is more truthful than any of your current egoic attempts to be sane. Of course you don't have to snap your hands as God because God doesn't need hands, but you can as God imagine yourself as a human then as that human snap your fingers and spawn infinite universes.

 

 

[Oppositionless]

magic, in a literal sense, and in a performative sense. as an ego everything has a meaning, ego is a meaning maker

Edited November 8, 2023 by Oppositionless

[tuku747]

[Razard86]

6 hours ago, tuku747 said:

.Every time God shakes things up a little for its ego. ^^^^