The Levels and AQAL explained by hoe_math

[LordFall]

Unexpectedly great video on levels of consciousness, spiral dynamics, susan cook-Greuter's developmental levels models and AQAL by Ken wilder

 

He made this simplified chart too, overall probably some of the best consciousness video I've seen outside of Leo's work 

 

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by LordFall

[Princess Arabia]

Interesting video. I watched the whole thing. This channel is good. I like it. Just got introduced to it today from somebody else's post in the dating section.

[Willie]

It was a nice abridged, introductory video! Condensed it nicely!

[hyruga]

300k views in just 3 days? 

[LordFall]

@hyruga right, he made it simple enough that even the normies got it. The visual doodles are a very engaging format 

[Fluran]

everyone there claiming itself as 7~9 (yellow-turquoise-coral(indigo) .. lol 

[An young being]

2 minutes ago, Fluran said:

everyone there claiming itself as 7~9 (yellow-turquoise-coral(indigo) .. lol 

So they seem to have good level of confidence, and if there is any level for being confident, let's slot some of their body parts there.

[HMD]

@Fluran That’s a lack of understanding of complexity, which truly begins at late-green. So, most of them are probably at stage orange (as the statistics suggest).

Edited November 2, 2023 by HMD

[Leo Gura]

Very good

[How to be wise]

I’m glad spiral dynamics is finally reaching a large audience. It’s about time it should be mainstream. 

[Puer Aeternus]

This video itself is pretty great! But go watch the other videos this guy makes. It’s top tier fascinating stupidity. 
 

This guy has some serious incel turned red pill vibes. Much of his channel is bastardizing spiral dynamics and other models like Wilber’s Four Quadrants to justify his straw man, oversimplified worldview of “women bad, men good”.

[An young being]

3 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

, oversimplified worldview of “women bad, men good”.

Before watching his latest video, my thought:That's what most dating experts do, right? 

After watching: Why did I think that? Am I assuming all dating experts are inclined towards men? Isn't it the other way round? Doesn't it depend on the individual person? Am I biased towards men? Did I develop a liking for him because of that video and supporting him in a biased manner? Am I trying to be humorous? Am I trying to seek attention through this comment? Am I trying to prove that I am at a higher level by asking all these questions? Am I trying to be overly honest? Am I acting like I am honest?Am I trying to confuse myself? Am I trying to confuse others? Am I thinking too much? 

After closing my eyes for a few minutes: Piece.

Oops I mistyped it. Shut up.( To my thoughts, in a loving manner)

End of the story

[UnbornTao]

As long as it's taken as a tool, it's okay. Although it isn't about consciousness.

Edited November 4, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Sincerity]

5 hours ago, Puer Aeternus said:

This video itself is pretty great! But go watch the other videos this guy makes. It’s top tier fascinating stupidity. 

This guy has some serious incel turned red pill vibes. Much of his channel is bastardizing spiral dynamics and other models like Wilber’s Four Quadrants to justify his straw man, oversimplified worldview of “women bad, men good”.

You just don't understand him. Bro, he spends time at coral. 

Surprisingly good video though.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Sincerity

[Sincerity]

On 11/1/2023 at 6:31 PM, Fluran said:

everyone there claiming itself as 7~9 (yellow-turquoise-coral(indigo) .. lol 

Good thing I have yt comments hidden by an extension because I'd rip my hair off reading that. 

Say coral again... stupid motherfuckers. 

[Socrates]

He did a good job!

Now all we need is a consciousness model and an emotions model, and you get the complete puzzle by incorporating all these perspectives together.

Even trying to contemplate how that would look I get dizzy 🤣

One thing I'm certain, "emotional extremes" can drastically retard your growth cognitively but greatly accelerate your growth spiritually.

[hyruga]

497k in 4 days. 

760k in 6 days.

Wow amazing. Didn't know people are into self help now.

The whole video is so untidy. Why would people like it?

Edited November 4, 2023 by hyruga

[TheAlchemist]

On 4.11.2023 at 6:22 AM, hyruga said:

The whole video is so untidy. Why would people like it?

It's the gen z style, more authentic or something. 

[Girzo]

I didn't like the video, some explanations are off. The guy just focuses on levels of thinking, misunderstands green. If I were to make such a video, I would focus on values, that is Spiral Dynamics, and not the Loevinger's model.

Edited November 6, 2023 by Girzo

[LordFall]

On 03/11/2023 at 2:06 PM, Puer Aeternus said:

This video itself is pretty great! But go watch the other videos this guy makes. It’s top tier fascinating stupidity. 
 

This guy has some serious incel turned red pill vibes. Much of his channel is bastardizing spiral dynamics and other models like Wilber’s Four Quadrants to justify his straw man, oversimplified worldview of “women bad, men good”.

Yeah, it's very interesting how someone who can think so beautifully in some ways has such simple takes when it comes to gender dynamics. I guess it's the same thing as Leo's point that being enlightened doesn't make you a geopolitical strategist overnight, I'm sure it helps but it's a correlation more than causation. 

 

On 05/11/2023 at 4:24 AM, TheAlchemist said:

It's the gen z style, more authentic or something. 

Well, it's very visually engaging so it grabs your attention.