What Are Your Thoughts On Paranormal Activity??

[Scholar]

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

You need to understand the mechanics of deep energy body work to understand why I'm saying its egoic. Bending elements isnt meant to be done whenever you feel like showing off to someone, that mindset produces low energy vibrations that actually stunt your progress. 

What most of us do in the world is we follow actions that our ego tells us to do, but to build chi energy you need to follow the actions of the tao/god or our inner voice. Your mindset of (we need to show humanity these powers so that they can all be enlightened) is unrealistic and problematic. Get into energy body work, and you'll see what i mean.

And m8 trust me, showing the world this energy is equivelant to Galileo showing the church that we dont revolve around the sun(how well did that go?). Theres nothing special about emitting chi into certain elements, unless your worldview denies it. Like theres nothing special about us revolving around the sun, unless your worldview denied it.

I disagree. You don't know how the world would react to it. You even gave the perfect example. Galileo shared his knowledge about the world despite conventions of the time, and even risking his own life in the process. Imagine where we would be if noone ever stood up to it because of some moralistic view like "I shouldn't do that because my god says so!". Imagine how different the world would be.

You talking in this forum and claiming that you have these abilities is already egoic. There is no difference between claiming it and showing off. You are basicly showing off right now, and if you were concerned for your gods rules, why did you even tell us about it?

Of course it's not special whatsoever, but it doesn't change the fact that people are living in delusion, and that delusion is causing suffering throughout the world. You can stop that suffering, but you don't because your inner voice says not to? 

 

This is not about showing off, this is about lessening the suffering of others. And you said it yourself, there is absolutely nothing special about these abilities. If I tell someone the earth revolves around the sun, is that showing off? Why would a god tell me not to tell someone about it?

[Nahm]

 

 

Edited April 1, 2017 by Nahm

[Prabhaker]

4 hours ago, Callum A said:

if any of you have any recommendations for books

Dimensions Beyond the Known

by Osho

A fascinating journey into the many mysterious realms of our existence, including what happens to a person after death, reincarnation, the esoteric roots of religious experience, and the dimension of time. There is also an account of the Tibetan practice of bardo. The beauty of this book is that it explains metaphysical concepts in a simple and comprehensive way.

http://www.oshorajneesh.com/download/osho-books/hindi-translations/Dimensions_beyond_the_Known.pdf (Download in pdf format)

[Hero in progress]

@Prabhaker

 

[Bebop]

@Callum A  https://www.amazon.com/Destiny-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184995/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491075019&sr=8-1&keywords=destiny+of+souls

https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491075907&sr=8-1&keywords=journey+of+souls

These were written by a hypnotherapist who was able to bring back patient's memories of what life was like in the spirit world before they came into physical bodies. Also goes into things like ghosts, spiritual guides, reincarnation etc. Normally I'd be pretty skeptical about it but he has 30 years of research done on it and the information he has received has been very consistent. Plus most of it just makes sense from an absolute point of view, we are just souls playing roles

[electroBeam]

@Scholar well get into energy body work, and you'll be able to show the world it but what will happen if you do, is your perspective on this matter will change.

Every morning try concentrating on a shapeless object, like space or something, because that's whats required for this work.

Then look up chi visualization techniques.

You'll be doing it in 3 months.

 

But just remember the aim of spirituality isnt to burn stuff with your hands, its to seek enlightenment. If you really want to impact people, making a video about it, or showing people this stuff isnt going to help them, you need to teach them how to and hope to god their egos wont use it to gain power, or any other cruel thing. 

[Bebop]

@Callum A You might also be interested in this

 

[Leo Gura]

14 hours ago, Loreena said:

My question 

They were blown out into outer space by the giant meteor

[Loreena]

13 hours ago, Nahm said:

 

 

Something paranormal going on here @Nahm

[Nahm]

@Loreena lol. Ya. It was either deleted which I doubt, or a glitch, or of course, paranormal. 

I'm a believer now.

 

[Nahm]

The whole topic of paranormal activity goes like this: Someone says paranormal things like ghosts are real. Any personal experience? No. Any proof like photos, video? No. Why do you believe it then? Because I'm open minded. Well if you're open minded then why haven't you experienced ghosts yourself? Uh. 

Then they stop talking about it and give some bullshitty reason like they are suddenly worried about what people will think. Or the classic - you are in a paradigm where you are blocking paranormal out. Uh, ok... my paradigm is somehow preventing you from showing photos or videos to me? My paradigm is somehow preventing you from continuing to tell me the details of your alleged experience? Sure. 

 

Edited April 2, 2017 by Nahm

[electroBeam]

@Nahm just when someone does post a video, up comes all these other videos about how we have "debunked" the paranormal activity, or the classic "it was a magician/a scam", just like how man landing on the moon is fake You cant win either way.

And if you do show someone in real life, either they think youre doing a magical trick, or they start to psyche themselves out and start thinking they have a mental disorder.

The paradigm is certainly a problem.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNN163TTACHs&ved=0ahUKEwi9w6DX64XTAhULErwKHYMoDuwQo7QBCBswAQ&usg=AFQjCNH7VUv2Vd9t5Z3aFcbc6uRvhQCGQA&sig2=JSk-nNUKEEM5h7J6KI-N0A

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Nahm said:

Any personal experience? No. Any proof like photos, video? No. Why do you believe it then? Because I'm open minded.

That is NOT how it goes. Don't conflate YOUR lack of personal experience with what others have experienced.

[Nahm]

@electroBeam It's the "if you do show someone" part that I'm at. For all my openness and looking, no one has showed anyone anything. 

@Leo Gura With all the respect in the world for what you do, this is an exact example of what I'm saying - this is always where paranormal ends. So far in my experience it always boils down to nothing but others' conflation. It always turns out they experienced a drug trip (I'm a fan myself) or a story they were told (usually at a young age) and adopted the details as their own. It would just be nice if for once someone experienced a ghost, or alien, or whatever, and said "here it is", rather than ultimately, "it all took place in my head" or "if you were me, you wouldn't talk openly about it" or the switch to "if you were open to it you would experience it too", which may be felt as genuine, but is also a simple defensive misdirection of topic. I've been open to aliens, angels,  for many years, roughly 20. But still nothing. I am expressing from my experience. It reminds me of how religious people get offended when someone continues to ask about their religion. Apparently, it's not fun for people to discover that something they say they know, turns out to be a belief.  Poeple seem to take words about a topic as words about their character. If you ask someone about a vacation they took, they'll tell you about it all day. They'll make popcorn for the slideshow.  Ask about something that they claim happened, but never actually did happened, and they get frustrated pretty quickly. 

[Nahm]

@John Flores Thanks for clearing this up. If, hypothetically, someone had ample money, how would they go about experiencing the paranormal?

 

[Nahm]

@My_Name_Is_Mud As far as I can honestly deduce, I don't have a belief about ghosts. I would love to experience one. I'm excited about the possibility.

@John Flores If you met a millionaire who wanted to see ghosts or aliens, what steps would you tell them to take? (With as much brevity as possible)

 

[Nahm]

@John Flores Are there any steps you can think of that someone could take to experience ghosts or aliens? Actual steps. Like if someone asked for steps on playing guitar it might look like this (instructional):

1. Hold pick in right hand

2. Hold strings down on fretboard with fingers of left hand.

3. Drag (strum) the pick across the strings

 

[electroBeam]

@Nahm where do you live?

[Guest Annetta]

@John Flores  Darkness and hatred have a hold of me, what would you do for someone who is angry?
My spiritual experiences have told me that I am a vessel of love, but beyond having a spiritual awakening I do not know how to maintain what these messages have told me.

[electroBeam]

2 hours ago, Nahm said:

@electroBeam It's the "if you do show someone" part that I'm at. For all my openness and looking, no one has showed anyone anything. 

experienced a ghost, or alien, or whatever, and said "here it is", rather than ultimately, "it all took place in my head"

Maybe this will help you in your search:

I dont think you quite understand the problem with having a dualistic paradigm while looking for the paranormal.

Are you open to the possibility that enlightenment exists? And that samahdi experiences exist? Im guessing you are otherwise you wouldnt be on this forum.

Now imagine trying to convince richard dawkins that the self doesnt exist. Just say he was open minded to it. You know what he would say after searching for enlightenment after 20 years? He would say this:

"The whole topic of enlightenment goes like this: Someone says paranormal things like samahdi experiences are real. Any personal experience? No. Any proof like photos, video? No. Why do you believe it then? Because I'm open minded. Well if you're open minded then why haven't you experienced samadhi experiences yourself? Uh."

See paranormal activity is just like enlightenment. It doesnt make sense from a dualistic perspective. You cant show a photo of the world being one. It works on a completely different plane. 

Now you obviously understand the difference between a pointer and real life. An image of a bottle in your head is a pointer. Seeing the bottle in real life is reality (or an appearance). Same with enlightenment. Everything is one is not enlightenment. The actual experience or indescribable understanding is the only thing that is enlightenment. The dao cannot be spoken. The best way to describe enlightenment is to be silent.

The best way to describe ghosts and aliens is also silence.

See ghosts and spirits in real life arent some white, human looking object floating around space. Thats laughable. 

But spirits do exist in real life. 

Another way of describing spirits is what i have always encountered ever since i was a kid. You feel a vibration, not from any of your 5 senses. A vibration from a different dimension (like how enlightenment is a different dimension). It doesnt have a shape, a form, it doesnt float in space, or have a colour. Its a vibration you feel, and you can feel an intelligence to it.

Thats another way of describing a spirit.

But both descriptions are just pointers.

Can you get a photo of that? Fuck no of course not.

Does it lurk around space? No of course not. Space is an illusion.

Does it have a colour? No (sometimes it does)

Does it look like a human? No! A human is an idea in your head, or scientifically speaking, its a perception from making meaning out of the various colours you encounter.

If ghosts are real, why dont they lurk around houses and open and close doors? Because physical realism is an illusion, and if you did see a ghost do that, by convention you would be hallucinating and it would be fake because the physical universe is fake!

You wanna see ghosts? You need to look deeper, stop looking at the reflections coming off your lenses for that pot of gold, and start looking through your lenses.