God is the pattern maker

[StarStruck]

Interesting explanation 

 

[Razard86]

15 hours ago, StarStruck said:

Interesting explanation 

 

These arguments are horrible, most atheists wouldn't even entertain this entire diatribe he is giving.

How humans define existence= appearance. They would say clearly I exist because I am here. When he starts talking about a self, they will just make the claim that it feels like they make their own decisions so they know they are a self. They are not going to go deeper than this. This entire video will mostly work on those already on the Spiritual Path and.....this presentation is so convoluted. 

Trying to intellectually prove to someone that they are not an individual self is damn near impossible. Without a mystical experience it isn't happening in majority of cases. 

[BlueOak]

This reasoning is split in two. Yes its all god. No it doesn't 'just happen'.

1) Everything except consciousness is a construct. A construct of one or more multiple patterns. Everything is god (you).

2) He's detaching from the physical so much he considers things like DNA 'not him'. Its all him. External and internal.

3) You can find many supporting patterns that explain or hold space for another. We can certainly observe personality traits from his examples. Sure we can generalize to save time, or reference many patterns at once, but for every generalized label he gave, there are detailed explanations also down to an infinite level of why a behavior occurs, because life/god/you is infinite.

4) The universe is not merely chaotic and random, if it were we would break apart into atoms. There is largely a predictable order to everything, and then there are random events that cause adaptation, or seemingly random events for which we don't have the full understanding of.  He seems to fill gaps in his understanding of for example biological processes, psychology, or physics with 'that's god'. Yes that is god. It's also a lack of understanding of the supporting forces or patterns that allow for life to exist, behaviors to be predicted, or the universe to function. - 

ITS ALL GOD. ITS ALL YOU. All the seemingly random bits, all the bits you hate, all the orderly bits, all the bits you love. 

1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

 Trying to intellectually prove to someone that they are not an individual self is damn near impossible. Without a mystical experience it isn't happening in majority of cases. 

What do you think triggers mystical experiences? Aside from substances? Questioning is one route, self-inquiry is a common route intellectuals or people with a logical, or questioning mind take. Sure there are triggers that kick back, parts of identity that will immediately dismiss things they consider not themselves. Depends on how ready someone is to challenge their sense of identity. I mean we can say a big part of the population would only watch a video if it had violence, music, attractive people, and comedy, and that would be true also.

Edited November 1, 2023 by BlueOak