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I need to know: Is this a misconception I have?

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When you look at your dog and make eye contact, his behavior changes. When we look at a quantum wave, its behavior changes. That … sounds to me… like life, Science have discovered life at the quantum level. Reality itself is ALIVE. And you, are, intertangled with it. Einstein took 2 seemingly unrelated thing, space and time and merged them into a new concept "SpaceTime", Quantum mechanics has taken 2 seemingly unrelated things, Mind and Matter and merged them into a new concept "MindMatter".

Looking at a wave and it turning into a particle, is like the act of looking at an apple turns it into an elephant.

Is this what quantum mechanics is saying or am I stuck in a misconception? 

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How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being?

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17 minutes ago, integral said:

Looking at a wave and it turning into a particle, is like the act of looking at an apple turns it into an elephant.

What if seeing the apple and then the elephant is the transformation.

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Technically QM doesn't say that, there are various interpretations of QM with no agreement.

But as part of our work here we know that mind and matter are entangled because matter is a type of mind.

But you should be careful about using stuff like QM to justify your worldview.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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The only thing I am sure quantum mechanics proves is that universe can get as complicated as it can to understand if we try using logical mind. But, sure, the mind creating or affecting matter is another interesting theory arrived using the observed mechanisms, but I believe it's way more complicated than it seems, atleast logically.

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I guess a quantum physicist could say that when you look at your dog, the dog appears. 

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In my opinion Rovelli has the most interesting interpretation on quantum mechanics. This is a nice watch if youre interested. His main argument is that relations are more fundamental than the parts and that properties of things ONLY exist in relation to other things.


“If you're going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don't even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery--isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a test of your endurance, of how much you really want to do it. And, you'll do it, despite rejection and the worst odds. And it will be better than anything else you can imagine. If you're going to try, go all the way. There is no other feeling like that. You will be alone with the gods, and the nights will flame with fire. You will ride life straight to perfect laughter. It's the only good fight there is.”

― Charles Bukowski

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That's what one of the interpretations of qm says, consciousness is required for the collapse of the wave function according to that. 

 

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I still don't get why physicists are more biased to explain things by dividing things up, and why they think that doing that will lead to more fundamental answers about reality.

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25 minutes ago, Understander said:

I still don't get why physicists are more biased to explain things by dividing things up, and why they think that doing that will lead to more fundamental answers about reality.

Bias=division. Without bias....there is no life. Form is bias....so we need bias otherwise we are just formless ONENESS.


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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@Razard86

That could be said of every kind of group or individual.

It's interesting to know why they are so bought into that idea.

I feel that there is something unique about being a physicist compared to other domains of science and non-scientific domains.

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17 hours ago, Understander said:

@Razard86

That could be said of every kind of group or individual.

It's interesting to know why they are so bought into that idea.

I feel that there is something unique about being a physicist compared to other domains of science and non-scientific domains.

Well yeah an individual and a group is a bias.

There is group bias and individual bias. We call individual bias your perspective, and we call group bias....things like race, gender, country, etc.

For some reason...we never talk about Earth Bias. LOL.


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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