Ukraine - Integrating Realpolitik and the Western Perspective

[Breakingthewall]

46 minutes ago, martins name said:

Rather shut it off but it doesn't matter. It shouldn't be used. Don't fund the enemy. Economic warfare.

Whose enemy? Maybe we should stop buying oil from Saudi Arabia because of the war in Yemen. Anyway, destroying infrastructure like that has only one purpose, to weaken Russia and Europe 

46 minutes ago, martins name said:

don't know about the pressure you are talking of but he is a murderer who assassinates his political opponents. That's just facts. Also he constantly interfere in western elections with his troll farms and invades countries. Putin is a clear antagonist. Telling the truth about it is hardly escalatory.

Russia is not a democracy, it is a kind of mafia state that is extremely difficult to control, it takes someone ruthless or it will collapse . China or Arabs are not democracy neither. 

46 minutes ago, martins name said:

Admittedly I don't know how much America has meddeled in Ukrainian politics. Sources I trust say it's way overblown but idk. Do you have sources or any good yt vids preferably I can check out?

This is interesting. Biased like everything, but shows a quite complete map, and made much before than the war. Putin and the former president of Ukraine are interviewed many years before the war

 

46 minutes ago, martins name said:

haven't heard any anti American sentiment on this conflict from Europeans.

It's incredible that Germany is not anti American now

Edited October 30, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[martins name]

56 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Whose enemy?

Europe, by us standing in solidarity with other European nations and affirming the rule that you don't get to carve up Europe with military might.

57 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe we should stop buying oil from Saudi Arabia because of the war in Yemen.

Yes. Two wrongs don't make a right.

59 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Anyway, destroying infrastructure like that has only one purpose, to weaken Russia and Europe

I doubt it's Biden's intention to weaken Europe, rather it's a necessary cost.

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Russia is not a democracy, it is a kind of mafia state that is extremely difficult to control, it takes someone ruthless or it will collapse . China or Arabs are not democracy neither.

I don't think killing opposition leaders is necessary to that end. Rather, it's a barbaric way to stay in power.

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's incredible that Germany is not anti American now

It's not, they support the defense of Ukraine. It's solidarity between European nations. Doing the right thing and standing up to tyrants.

 

I'll watch the doc tomorrow tnx for the recommend. Good night.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, martins name said:

doubt it's Biden's intention to weaken Europe, rather it's a necessary cost.

Search in Google: Victoria nuland, fuck the Europeans

1 hour ago, martins name said:

It's not, they support the defense of Ukraine. It's solidarity between European nations. Doing the right thing and standing up to tyrants

Its be the slave of US, no one dares to contradict, and it's normal

1 hour ago, martins name said:

don't think killing opposition leaders is necessary to that end. Rather, it's a barbaric way to stay in power

The power is always barbaric.  

Watch the documentary, I think it's quite interesting