Dealing with people

[HMD]

What are some of the problems you face/used to face when dealing with normies? And also, how did you overcome it?

[BlueOak]

Depends on what part of yourself you are pushing away, hating on, or don't have in balance.

You can work that out from how you react to others, then work out why you are doing it, and try to integrate it into your life.

1, Sometimes it's as easy as acceptance. Just accept it for what it is. Accept them completely for who they (you) are.
2, Immersion in what you don't like, like moving to a place that embodies it, living with it day to day or interacting with it somehow.
3, Taking time each week to listen to a speaker saying something you are repelled by and finding commonalities or words from that speaker that don't repel you, this eases the divide.
4, Some use visualization or meditate on it and wait for the answers.
5, Others wait till they are feeling an emotion and sit with it treating it as the piece of yourself coming to your attention, that is feeling out of place or hurt. Do what feels natural in that case to accept it, let it express itself and integrate with you or your life.

Everything you experience is you. You represent it, give it meaning and then react to the meaning you gave it. There are no people outside of yourself. Everything you are experiencing is coming from you. It takes fully stepping back and looking at it. Owning it completely. 

[Spiritual Warrior]

What is a "normie"?

[itsadistraction]

5 hours ago, HMD said:

What are some of the problems you face/used to face when dealing with normies? And also, how did you overcome it?

If spirituality has made you see normies as more of a "problem" than you are not doing spirituality correctly (or need to keep going). Spirituality makes you feel more connected to the universe, including all people, and make it easier to deal with them. 

 

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warrior said:

What is a "normie"?

A normie is an average person. It's sort of a joke but it's similar as calling people "sheep". It's a term even Leo used in a video once, to mean anyone who isn't into actualized.org and the like. 

Edited October 26, 2023 by itsadistraction

[Arthogaan]

6 hours ago, HMD said:

And also, how did you overcome it?

Just see them as sweet, innocent children that sometimes just get mad because they don't know better.

Also realize that if you had the same brain as them and the same life experiences you would behave just like them.

[HMD]

@BlueOak Thanks, that helps a lot. If you have other points drop them below. 

[HMD]

2 hours ago, itsadistraction said:

Spirituality makes you feel more connected to the universe, including all people, and make it easier to deal with them. 

@itsadistraction What did spirituality change for you in the way you perceive and relate to others? 

@ArthogaanWhat if it's a partner? In that case, you have to move on to someone more aware. What are your thoughts? 

[Arthogaan]

2 minutes ago, HMD said:

What if it's a partner? In that case, you have to move on to someone more aware. What are your thoughts? 

Haha good question. Well actually it's the same. Learning how to love without expectation, without the need for your partner to be "as evolved as you", without the need to be fully understood by your partner, makes your relationships and love so much easier and deeper. You can mix the love for children vibe with seeing their true essence/higher self in them.

[itsadistraction]

12 hours ago, HMD said:

@itsadistraction What did spirituality change for you in the way you perceive and relate to others? 

@Arthogaan

12 hours ago, HMD said:

@itsadistraction What did spirituality change for you in the way you perceive and relate to others? 

@Arthogaan

I became more patient, more understanding, less angry, less frustrated, less argumentative, more of a leader. Etc 

[HMD]

@itsadistraction That’s decent.

@Arthogaan I understand. This way of behaving is slightly tricky for me because unconditional acceptance may lead to the perpetuation of certain behaviors on the partner's end that are practically unhealthy or damaging to all the parties involved. 

[Arthogaan]

21 minutes ago, HMD said:

@itsadistraction That’s decent.

@Arthogaan I understand. This way of behaving is slightly tricky for me because unconditional acceptance may lead to the perpetuation of certain behaviors on the partner's end that are practically unhealthy or damaging to all the parties involved. 

Actually I would say that unconditional acceptance will make you more subtle and intelligent in giving advice to the partner. Because even when accepting you can still provide advice, but you are not attached. When we have expectations/emotions we often say them to the partner in a way that only makes their toxic behavior worse.

[DianaFr]

Haha, what if normies were the ones who hold the truth? This is a thought I've been entertaining for some time since I discovered how my ego was using spiritual development as a way to be superior over others. I'm way more humble now and I'm learning to respect the person regardless of their journey. They're probably way more advanced than me in a number of other areas, so who am I to judge. I'm practicing connection now. It throws half of the spiritual stuff out the window  

[Snader]

Constantly seeing how brainwashed people are by society. I understand why that is, but my temperament is making it hard for me to find grace and to embody the understanding I have.

I’m pushing myself everyday thou.

Edited October 26, 2023 by Snader

[HMD]

14 hours ago, Arthogaan said:

Because even when accepting you can still provide advice, but you are not attached.

@Arthogaan Yeah, that actually works great. Unless the other person is closed and perceives any advice as a slight. And that’s where non-attachment comes to place, helping us move on.  

[HMD]

@DianaFr consider this: Nobody can hold the truth. Some people have better facts than others. But what matters is the level of self-deception and some people are obviously and deeply self-deceived. They have not trained their mind. 

And dealing with those people is half of life’s challenge. Because you can unconsciously give them the power to take you down.

And btw, spiritual bypassing is a normie move.

[HMD]

@Snader what is the most challenging aspect of that embodiment process? 

[Snader]

3 hours ago, HMD said:

@Snader what is the most challenging aspect of that embodiment process? 

The slow progress speed, considering how much I practice and gain stress in the process.

[Razard86]

My issue is people's lack of integrity with themselves. The biggest issue people have is they hold people to standards they do not hold themselves too. I recently got into an argument with my friend because they don't like my pointing out the inconsistencies in their own actions towards others and their judgments of others. 

So my issue is the lack of self-honesty/accountability, which =Self-Love. It's funny I realized I trained properly 2 out of my 3 friends to organize their thoughts clearly so they understand themselves more deeply but my other friend I didn't talk to as much so that's why they are resisting. 

[HMD]

@Razard86 Yeah, that’s exactly what bothers me too. The blatant self-rejection that branches in a myriad of manifestations and ultimately hurts themselves the most. 

However, I am starting to acknowledge the aforementioned phenomenon as fascinating. 

[HMD]

@Lila9 How are you currently coping with this?