The simplest definition of non duality

[Javfly33]

Would you say the simplest definition of non duality is experiencing your surroundings (vision, sound, ...etc) as you/ yourself ?

Or in other words experiencing what appears in front of you or the sounds that this objects emit, as part of your mind, as phenomena that is actually happening inside your own mind.

That would be Love

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Would you say the simplest definition of non duality is experiencing your surroundings (vision, sound, ...etc) as you/ yourself ?

No, that would be Solipsism.

Non-duality = not two. Where there is no two, there is no 'you'.

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Bazooka Jesus

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

@Dez

'You' is not an experience. It is the interpretation of an experience.

[Javfly33]

50 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

No, that would be Solipsism.

Non-duality = not two. Where there is no two, there is no 'you'.

 

Why? Im not saying objects or sounds that are not in 'my' current experience do not exist though

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Javfly33

[Leo Gura]

No difference between subject and object, self and world.

The world is the self.

[Arthogaan]

From Daniel Ingram's book:

No-self and True Self are really just two sides of the same coin.
There is a great little poem by one Kalu Rinpoche that goes something like:

We live in illusion

And the appearance of things.

There is a reality:

We are that reality.

When you understand this,

You will see that you are nothing.

And, being nothing,

You are everything.

That is all.

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Arthogaan said:

That is all.

That is far from all.

[Arthogaan]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That is far from all.

Could you expand on that?

I had God-realizations, Infinity Realizations and Awakening to Absolute Solipsism and the Fact that I completely dreamed up the Buddha and You. And latelly I turned back to a lot of meditation and living from the panoramic view and so on.

And I don't really see now, how isn't it congruent? Obviously the Exploration Of Consciousness is endless, and you can achieve higher and higher Consciousness and understanding but how isn't it in line with the fact that:

There is a reality:

We are that reality.

When you understand this,

You will see that you are nothing.

And, being nothing,

You are everything.

That is all.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Arthogaan said:

There is a reality:

We are that reality.

When you understand this,

You will see that you are nothing.

And, being nothing,

You are everything.

All this is true.

I never denied that.

I simply said there's more to realize beyond that.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Arthogaan]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

All this is true.

I never denied that.

I simply said there's more to realize beyond that.

And this more would be turning the knob of Consciousness and Understanding ever higher, right? Or do you mean something else?

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Arthogaan said:

And this more would be turning the knob of Consciousness and Understanding ever higher, right? Or do you mean something else?

There is a whole order of higher, trans-human dimension to Consciousness. Like Alien Consciousness and others.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Razard86]

On 10/18/2023 at 6:49 AM, Leo Gura said:

There is a whole order of higher, trans-human dimension to Consciousness. Like Alien Consciousness and others.

You can also realize Leo Consciousness LOL.