I swear some people are just conflict oriented

[Razard86]

I am guessing this man didn't have a great relationship with the women in his life. This is why age does NOT = wisdom. We really do not need older people like this man trying to teach the youth on what love is.

 

[Razard86]

I wonder if you got these 3 in a room together lol.

 

[Danioover9000]

@Razard86

30 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

I am guessing this man didn't have a great relationship with the women in his life. This is why age does NOT = wisdom. We really do not need older people like this man trying to teach the youth on what love is.

 

   Firstly, the person you're referring to is called Jesse Lee Peterson. Secondly, in terms of debating and arguing, the majority of young people or those with left wing ideologies can't out debate him because they fail to define their own positions to him, and when Jesse pushes back with simple close ended questions, they mostly fail to be logically consistent with their positions. Thirdly, he is solid stage blue/orange with his value systems, and is a religious person who biases more towards traditionalism and conservativism, who argues in favor for the father, and for more intact family homes because in his view single parent detached homes leads to ore violence and criminalization of the youth. Also, this is an edited clip of him, which IMO is bad faith and uncharitable for you to base your post on something that is clipped, maybe out of context, which doesn't represent Jesse Lee Peterson's worldview fully in good will.

  At least in terms of other developmental factors like value systems, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, ego development, other lines of development he's actually like this in real life. In fact he's not the only one arguing for more moral standards and ethical standards in a world with increasing moral decadence of the west, particularly for the black community, thanks to systemic issues and especially the internet:

   

 

 

   In fact, look at this video below, another example of how perverse incentives of the internet culture has brain rotted the online variations of the political ideologies, just look at how Vaush slanders Andrew Wilson, and how the online left keeps calling him 'Papa Fascist' for just expressing his conservative/traditional takes:

   And you, @Razard86, are telling me that people on the real world, of conservative/traditional to centrist bias, are more perverted than the online left?

   What'll probably fix most of these issues is the creation of an online government system, which will handle the other big tech companies that developed Twitch, Kick, Tik Tok, Facebook, YouTube, and many other social media sites that have contributed to the immense decline of attention span, increases in ADD/ADHD, other personality disorders and mental health, normalization and rewarding of more narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy due to the digital formats and hyper stimuli these addictive platforms are designed to do, to curate and tailor content to user biases quickly, and to capture and retain your attention span longer and longer despite corrosion to attention span and hijacking the limbic brain part. We need more regulation and control of the internet cultures and spaces so people like Vaush are NOT REWARDED FOR THEIR BS! And of course yes, this applies to those like Nick Fuentes and the alt right, but also the alt left too! This has gone too long that the online lefties with progressive and socialism biases in bad faith call all of the right wing ideologies 'Fascists', that's like if all the online right wing calls all of left wing 'commies' al the time, meanwhile big tech companies reward such bad behavior with clicks and views and degrade people's attention spans as well as their moral systems. It's a legitimate problem when the left doesn't admit that morals degradation is actually happening as a side effect of all the internet's craziness, and nobody is taking the moral degradation seriously. 

Edited October 17, 2023 by Danioover9000

[Razard86]

4 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Razard86

   Firstly, the person you're referring to is called Jesse Lee Peterson. Secondly, in terms of debating and arguing, the majority of young people or those with left wing ideologies can't out debate him because they fail to define their own positions to him, and when Jesse pushes back with simple close ended questions, they mostly fail to be logically consistent with their positions. Thirdly, he is solid stage blue/orange with his value systems, and is a religious person who biases more towards traditionalism and conservativism, who argues in favor for the father, and for more intact family homes because in his view single parent detached homes leads to ore violence and criminalization of the youth. Also, this is an edited clip of him, which IMO is bad faith and uncharitable for you to base your post on something that is clipped, maybe out of context, which doesn't represent Jesse Lee Peterson's worldview fully in good will.

  At least in terms of other developmental factors like value systems, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, ego development, other lines of development he's actually like this in real life. In fact he's not the only one arguing for more moral standards and ethical standards in a world with increasing moral decadence of the west, particularly for the black community, thanks to systemic issues and especially the internet:

   

 

 

   In fact, look at this video below, another example of how perverse incentives of the internet culture has brain rotted the online variations of the political ideologies, just look at how Vaush slanders Andrew Wilson, and how the online left keeps calling him 'Papa Fascist' for just expressing his conservative/traditional takes:

   And you, @Razard86, are telling me that people on the real world, of conservative/traditional to centrist bias, are more perverted than the online left?

   What'll probably fix most of these issues is the creation of an online government system, which will handle the other big tech companies that developed Twitch, Kick, Tik Tok, Facebook, YouTube, and many other social media sites that have contributed to the immense decline of attention span, increases in ADD/ADHD, other personality disorders and mental health, normalization and rewarding of more narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy due to the digital formats and hyper stimuli these addictive platforms are designed to do, to curate and tailor content to user biases quickly, and to capture and retain your attention span longer and longer despite corrosion to attention span and hijacking the limbic brain part. We need more regulation and control of the internet cultures and spaces so people like Vaush are NOT REWARDED FOR THEIR BS! And of course yes, this applies to those like Nick Fuentes and the alt right, but also the alt left too! This has gone too long that the online lefties with progressive and socialism biases in bad faith call all of the right wing ideologies 'Fascists', that's like if all the online right wing calls all of left wing 'commies' al the time, meanwhile big tech companies reward such bad behavior with clicks and views and degrade people's attention spans as well as their moral systems. It's a legitimate problem when the left doesn't admit that morals degradation is actually happening as a side effect of all the internet's craziness, and nobody is taking the moral degradation seriously. 

I apologize I was not in a good mood when I originally read this. You wrote a lot when I get some time I'll address your points...but ummmm its going to take some time....cause you made a lot of points.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Razard86

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Razard86 said:

I wonder if you got these 3 in a room together lol.

 

I enjoyed this discussion.

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, Razard86 said:

I wonder if you got these 3 in a room together lol.

 

Check out the backlash from her "bus driver comment".

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Check out the backlash from her "bus driver comment".

Yeah its not her fault, I have met women like her. She is one of the career women focused on making her money, and wants a man who makes as much as her but she doesn't understand why she has not been able to get a man like that.

Before the Red Pill went mainstream back in December 2020-January 2021 there were women on panels on small black red pill channels making the same complaints. This problem is a multi-generational social conditioning issue which has its roots all the way from the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. Trauma and resentment that got deeply rooted in the family structure and tied into white supremacy issues. 

She is a product of her environment just like everybody else.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Yeah its not her fault, I have met women like her. She is one of the career women focused on making her money, and wants a man who makes as much as her but she doesn't understand why she has not been able to get a man like that.

Before the Red Pill went mainstream back in December 2020-January 2021 there were women on panels on small black red pill channels making the same complaints. This problem is a multi-generational social conditioning issue which has its roots all the way from the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. Trauma and resentment that got deeply rooted in the family structure and tied into white supremacy issues. 

She is a product of her environment just like everybody else.

I heard someone explain this once in a video and it makes sense to me. Men sometimes and women also, think women who prefer men to provide and protect are just gold-diggers or just want men for their money. While that may be the case on the surface for some, not discounting the ones who really appreciate men who can provide these securities, there are inherent, evolutionary and innate reasons for this. Some women are unconsciously seeking this because they were either told it's the right thing to do or for whatever other superficial reasons.

Men are very goal-oriented and they perform better if they feel as if they are providing some form of service to their mate or being useful. They are usually competitive and are at their best if they are competing for something or at best striving towards some achievement. The women of their dreams or a woman they love brings this out in them, innately. It's how they are wired. If they are with a woman who doesn't encourage them to work harder at keeping her and doing this to develop her trust so she can feel secure with him in a long-term relationship, he will not feel worthy of her or can even develop some resentment for her because she settled for less than she deserved, and he became lazy and lacked motivation to become his best version. 

If they somehow develop themselves while with the one who settled for them when they were down and he became successful, whether she helped him or not, he will leave her and find him a woman he thinks is better suited for his up-levelness. This is why sometimes men become abusive to their partners because they don't respect them and resent them for accepting them while they were unable or unwilling to provide and protect. 

This woman knows better, and she knows the dynamic and would be setting herself up for failure if she accepted a mate that achieved way less than she did. Women and men like certain things for a good and sometimes intelligent reason whether or not they are aware of it. It's evolutionary. Men go for looks not because they are superficial and vain but for some inherent reason they are not even aware of. Something to do with birthing and other unconscious reason I forget the details.

So instead of us bashing the sexes for their preferences, it's best to understand why we have these superficial preferences because they stem from something deeper than just looks or financially able. This is why you'll find a lot of rich black men like sports players choosing white or bi-racial women, over their own kind because now they feel worthy of who they think is a better breed. Which, of course, is just societal programming and conditioning. 

[Merkabah Star]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Check out the backlash from her "bus driver comment".

Yes, she said it, she is a professional disrupter. Eboni was one of the real housewives on nyc, was on the last season and basically killed the show by making everything about race. The whole show got canned after that, they had to pick a whole new cast. ?
 

Don’t judge me I binged it all during Covid *hides behind couch*

[Razard86]

On 10/18/2023 at 0:18 AM, Princess Arabia said:

I heard someone explain this once in a video and it makes sense to me. Men sometimes and women also, think women who prefer men to provide and protect are just gold-diggers or just want men for their money. While that may be the case on the surface for some, not discounting the ones who really appreciate men who can provide these securities, there are inherent, evolutionary and innate reasons for this. Some women are unconsciously seeking this because they were either told it's the right thing to do or for whatever other superficial reasons.

Men are very goal-oriented and they perform better if they feel as if they are providing some form of service to their mate or being useful. They are usually competitive and are at their best if they are competing for something or at best striving towards some achievement. The women of their dreams or a woman they love brings this out in them, innately. It's how they are wired. If they are with a woman who doesn't encourage them to work harder at keeping her and doing this to develop her trust so she can feel secure with him in a long-term relationship, he will not feel worthy of her or can even develop some resentment for her because she settled for less than she deserved, and he became lazy and lacked motivation to become his best version. 

If they somehow develop themselves while with the one who settled for them when they were down and he became successful, whether she helped him or not, he will leave her and find him a woman he thinks is better suited for his up-levelness. This is why sometimes men become abusive to their partners because they don't respect them and resent them for accepting them while they were unable or unwilling to provide and protect. 

This woman knows better, and she knows the dynamic and would be setting herself up for failure if she accepted a mate that achieved way less than she did. Women and men like certain things for a good and sometimes intelligent reason whether or not they are aware of it. It's evolutionary. Men go for looks not because they are superficial and vain but for some inherent reason they are not even aware of. Something to do with birthing and other unconscious reason I forget the details.

So instead of us bashing the sexes for their preferences, it's best to understand why we have these superficial preferences because they stem from something deeper than just looks or financially able. This is why you'll find a lot of rich black men like sports players choosing white or bi-racial women, over their own kind because now they feel worthy of who they think is a better breed. Which, of course, is just societal programming and conditioning. 

While what you say is true, her problem runs even deeper. Let's just say Ebony would need to take femininity classes or learn to accept a feminine man for her to have a successful relationship with a Masculine Man. Her issue would be she doesn't know how to turn off that competitive "I'm my own boss" energy and as a result would be tough to be with. 

 

On 10/18/2023 at 1:35 AM, Merkabah Star said:

Yes, she said it, she is a professional disrupter. Eboni was one of the real housewives on nyc, was on the last season and basically killed the show by making everything about race. The whole show got canned after that, they had to pick a whole new cast. ?
 

Don’t judge me I binged it all during Covid *hides behind couch*

I'm not surprised, she has Omarosa vibes.

[Razard86]

On 10/17/2023 at 3:24 PM, Danioover9000 said:

@Razard86

   Firstly, the person you're referring to is called Jesse Lee Peterson. Secondly, in terms of debating and arguing, the majority of young people or those with left wing ideologies can't out debate him because they fail to define their own positions to him, and when Jesse pushes back with simple close ended questions, they mostly fail to be logically consistent with their positions. Thirdly, he is solid stage blue/orange with his value systems, and is a religious person who biases more towards traditionalism and conservativism, who argues in favor for the father, and for more intact family homes because in his view single parent detached homes leads to ore violence and criminalization of the youth. Also, this is an edited clip of him, which IMO is bad faith and uncharitable for you to base your post on something that is clipped, maybe out of context, which doesn't represent Jesse Lee Peterson's worldview fully in good will.

  At least in terms of other developmental factors like value systems, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, ego development, other lines of development he's actually like this in real life. In fact he's not the only one arguing for more moral standards and ethical standards in a world with increasing moral decadence of the west, particularly for the black community, thanks to systemic issues and especially the internet:

   

 

 

   In fact, look at this video below, another example of how perverse incentives of the internet culture has brain rotted the online variations of the political ideologies, just look at how Vaush slanders Andrew Wilson, and how the online left keeps calling him 'Papa Fascist' for just expressing his conservative/traditional takes:

   And you, @Razard86, are telling me that people on the real world, of conservative/traditional to centrist bias, are more perverted than the online left?

   What'll probably fix most of these issues is the creation of an online government system, which will handle the other big tech companies that developed Twitch, Kick, Tik Tok, Facebook, YouTube, and many other social media sites that have contributed to the immense decline of attention span, increases in ADD/ADHD, other personality disorders and mental health, normalization and rewarding of more narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy due to the digital formats and hyper stimuli these addictive platforms are designed to do, to curate and tailor content to user biases quickly, and to capture and retain your attention span longer and longer despite corrosion to attention span and hijacking the limbic brain part. We need more regulation and control of the internet cultures and spaces so people like Vaush are NOT REWARDED FOR THEIR BS! And of course yes, this applies to those like Nick Fuentes and the alt right, but also the alt left too! This has gone too long that the online lefties with progressive and socialism biases in bad faith call all of the right wing ideologies 'Fascists', that's like if all the online right wing calls all of left wing 'commies' al the time, meanwhile big tech companies reward such bad behavior with clicks and views and degrade people's attention spans as well as their moral systems. It's a legitimate problem when the left doesn't admit that morals degradation is actually happening as a side effect of all the internet's craziness, and nobody is taking the moral degradation seriously. 

Ok so here is my long reply to your long post:

I am aware of Jesse Lee Peterson. I am aware that Jesse Lee Peterson debates people who do not have a strong idealogical understanding of what they are talking about. But the same is true for him. You mentioned that he is a Pastor so let’s start there. Can Jesse Lee Peterson give you an accurate understanding of what God is?

Doe Jesse Lee Peterson understand that the Bible that he reads actually teaches through Jesus that sin does not actually exist. Has Jesse Lee Peterson as a Pastor who calls himself Christian ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND what Jesus was pointing to? NO!!!!

So look in the beginning we have already shown that Jesse Lee Peterson has a lack of truth in the very identity that he constructed. He is God as Jesse Lee Peterson that doesn’t even know why Gays exist. I was raised in the Christian Church and was able to discover the truth of reality? Why? Because I actually cared enough to not stop until I discovered what God was even if it took me losing everything. Jesse Lee’s love can be bought. That is why he stopped, but he is a Pastor who is supposed to be a leader. A leader that can be bought cannot understand God’s will.

The Christian Religion teaches that God is OMNIPRESENT, which means EVERYWHERE. But because Jesse Lee is full hatred he does not realize that God is HIM and the Gays which he judges ARE ALSO HIM.

Now let’s talk about the single parent households. The reason there are single parent households is a result of the feminist movement. Jesse Lee Peterson is unaware that Men and Women have both feminine and masculine expressions. This is ANCIENT TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE that existed both in ancient African Cultures but also Native American, Japanese, Chinese, Indian and many other cultures. So Jesse Lee Peterson isn’t even TRADITIONAL ENOUGH!!! He is disconnected from the tradition of his ancestors!!! Jeese Lee Peterson’s tradition is that of African American culture. African Americans are a CREATED CLASS OF PEOPLE because when they were shipped over here they were stripped of everything. There family line, their language, their religion, their clothing, EVERYTHING.

Jesse Lee Peterson NEVER decided to research history and discover the ancient traditions of his own origin because he allowed American Materialist Culture to trick him into thinking it to be beneath modern culture, the very culture he demonizes. He did not study intently the sociological forces that creates single parent households because had he done that he wouldn’t speak with so much self-righteousness.

Also Jesse Lee Peterson has NEVER BEEN MARRIED but engaged twice!! So he out here talking about single parent households and he was never able to even construct and sustain a marriage. Now with that said I am not here to rail against the man, but I am pointing to the fact that he is lost. Completely and utterly lost. Any Christian Pastor who doesn’t know what Unconditional Love really means is the blind leading the blind.

Now with all that said is there truth in his message? Sure there is some truth and that is why God Is making use of him even though his own message is inconsistent because he is supposed to represent Jesus Christ as a Pastor and he spreads messages of HATE!!! He talks about anger is poisonous but hatred is poisonous.

Jesse Lee Peterson is from a class of men who demonize commitment to anything that doesn’t fit their standards. He knows nothing of running a country and what it takes to maintain the peace among so many different groups.

Also that clip is NOT disingenuous because it was long enough to fully express what he wanted to say. It is not about the LENGTH of the message but the context of what the message is saying. That clip was LONG ENOUGH because it formed a complete picture of the snapshot of his message. But if you say it wasn’t then point out WHY it wasn’t a fair representation. This is what I keep telling you young people on here. If you have a critique you have to EXPLAIN IT!! Saying a clip is disingenuous is not always true, for a clip to be disingenuous it would have to be an incomplete clip of how you truly feel about a subject. ANYBODY that knows Jesse Lee Peterson will admit that clip was the TRUTH of how he feels about women.

At one point in time women confused me too until I recognized the genius of the design that God did when God created women. What Jesse doesn’t realize is his opinion on women is a reflection of his lack of love. God designed men and women to be the way they are so they learn PATIENCE, UNDERSTANDING, COMPASSION, FORGIVENESS. Men and women were designed to express opposite aspects that were really ONE and to teach each other through their interactions MATURITY!!!

Any issues men and women have with each other comes from a lack of maturity!! But you have a man like Jesse Lee Peterson who lack MATURITY giving relationship advice and advice on politics!! Also how is Jesse going to push for morality…when his love can be BOUGHT!!! True morality is unconditional love. True morality comes from a recognition that everything is GOD’S WILL. Mankind only created morality in the words of Jesus “because of the hardness of your hearts.” Basically selfishness.

Both the Left and the Right both play the game of making fun of each other. Asking who is more perverse is a moot point because it is human nature to assume someone whose views diverge from your views in a significant way are crazy. It takes a MATURITY to eventually realize that maybe something is going on here that I am just not seeing correctly.

Now let’s address your complaints of the leftists. Do you want to know why Conservatives are made fun of?

1.       Conservatives are made fun of because the best candidate their party has produced in the last 2 Presidential cycles is George Bush and Donald Trump.

2.       Conservatives are made fun of because the voice that represents them is Fox News which is literally a propaganda machine that is so vile and wicked in how they twist facts I wouldn’t be surprised if they were funded by a rival country because it is hilarious how much harm they do.

3.       Conservatives are made fun of because the greatest domestic threat to America is not terrorists from the Middle East but White Supremacists. The most consistent terrorist attacks have come from young white male extreme conservatives.

4.       Conservatives are made fun of because the average voter who votes for Republicans cannot explain to you the platform of the person they are voting for.

5.       Conservatives are made fun of because they consider statistics to be fake, but if Donald Trump or Fox says it, it must be true.

6.       Conservatives are made fun of because Donald Trump told them to inject themselves with bleach to fight the Corona Virus and some of them did that.

 

I can keep this up all day….do you know how much fact checking you have to do on Fox News and Donald Trump?

 

Now with that said the Left likes to cherry pick facts as well its just that Conservatives do it WAYYYY TOO MUCH!! They do it so much, you swear God created the Republican Party as a real life comedy show!!! This is why they get made fun of, because they contradict themselves so much you cannot help but laugh!!!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHPVVJgVLKc&ab_channel=TheDemocrats

 

^^^ Here is the Lincoln Project a GROUP OF CONSERVATIVES who realize that Fox News and the Republicans are so corrupt and lost at this point that they took it upon themselves to make attack ads online against them.

 

The Republican party is NOT TRUE CONSERVATISM!! True conservatism is about pushing for tried and true systems!! Its about a deep investigation into our history and looking at TIMELESS VALUE SYSTEMS like HONESTY!!! I’m going to stop right there. Just that one value alone…is all encompassing. FREAKING HONESTY!!!

 

I could go on about how ridiculously dishonest the Republican Party is and most conservatives in power is. But I won’t because it would take too long. With that said we need HONEST CONSERVATISM for America to get on track.

 

At the heart of any highly-function society is a deeply rooted and respect of conservatism with a healthy dose of liberalism. If conservatism is the soil, liberalism is the seed that sprouts and grows upward.

Edited October 19, 2023 by Razard86