Indian supreme court fails to legalize same sex marriage

[An young being]

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/same-sex-marriage-verdict-live-updates-supreme-court-judgement-today-latest-news-8986054/lite/

 

[Merkabah Star]

India is probably about 50 years away from gay marriage being legalised. 

[An young being]

1 hour ago, Merkabah Star said:

India is probably about 50 years away from gay marriage being legalised. 

But I believe marriage unions will be legalized far sooner than that.

[Merkabah Star]

That’s good. I went to the gay film festival in Mumbai years ago, there was a scene for sure, but it seemed India as a whole was so conservative on the gay issue. 

[An young being]

18 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

 India as a whole was so conservative on the gay issue. 

Yep. They are conservative, but they don't hate LGBT people either. Most just feel that it's a weird kind of thing not to be talked about in public, just like sex. Some trans people groups forcefully asking for money in public places and abusing people if they don't pay also spoils the image of all LGBT people.

[rnd]

"Fail to recognize" or "succeed to ditch" that shit  rather?

Why can't it instead be the West and US who fail to recognize the traditional man-woman relationship and prohibit LGBT and gay stuff?

 

If a country were to legalize the "horse-human" marriage, would it make it even more liberal and superiour to West and US? How about "father-daughter" sex and marrige? If not, why not?

Edited October 28, 2023 by rnd

[Kid A]

On 28.10.2023 at 3:46 PM, rnd said:

Why can't it instead be the West and US who fail to recognize the traditional man-woman relationship and prohibit LGBT and gay stuff?

Is man-woman relationship illegal in the West now?

[something_else]

On 28/10/2023 at 2:46 PM, rnd said:

If a country were to legalize the "horse-human" marriage, would it make it even more liberal and superiour to West and US? How about "father-daughter" sex and marrige? If not, why not?

This is just a classic slippery slope fallacy. There is a distinct difference between gay marriage and human-animal marriage.

Very few people are actually born with a desire to marry a horse. Attraction to an animal is akin to attraction to a child in that an animal is not smart enough to understand what is happening to it, so we can quite easily say that attraction to animals is not healthy, is likely mental illness, and should be banned.

And incest creates a fucked up gene pool. Father-daughter relationships are also going to be subject to enormous power-imbalance causing a lot of suffering.

The only thing gay relationships hurt is conservative people's feelings. A significant amount of the population are born with same-gender attraction too, so it's not just something you can dismiss as unnatural.

[An young being]

On 28/10/2023 at 7:16 PM, rnd said:

 

If a country were to legalize the "horse-human" marriage, would it make it even more liberal and superiour to West and US? How about "father-daughter" sex and marrige? If not, why not?

5 hours ago, something_else said:

 

The problem with horse-human marriage is that the horse cannot give consent. It will be accounted as rape. If the horse develops a good brain and development like humans and wishes to marry a human, then why not?

[rnd]

5 hours ago, something_else said:

Very few people are actually born with a desire to marry a horse. Attraction to an animal is akin to attraction to a child in that an animal is not smart enough to understand what is happening to it, so we can quite easily say that attraction to animals is not healthy, is likely mental illness, and should be banned.

How do you know that it's "very few people"? And even in this case, shouldn't those few people be respected equally? Does   the fact there they're "few" of them, make them less respectful? For gays and lgbt related shit - it doens't, it's opposite: the fewer of them, the less protected they're, the more they must become protected.

Then following the logic of those in Europe and US, why shouldn't there a "horse-human" marriage then be legalized too analogously to the "gay" one?

And the same will go for "father-daugther" sex and marrige. Not?

Edited October 30, 2023 by rnd