Is Anybody Really Stupid or Dumb.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Razard86 fun twist, the guy was you.

 

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Oh yeah I get you I figured out how intelligent stupid was earlier this year when I got in a discussion with a guy and was trying to help him awaken and he questioned whether he existed at all. I responded if you didn't exist we wouldn't be having this conversation and he responded "well how do I know that is true?" I told him...you know its not true...because you are able to ask that question. He was like....but how do you know? I was like...wow stupidity is undefeated....you cannot communicate with someone when they play that card.

It was there when I realized...you cannot awaken God against its will. No amount of logic can defeat stupidity. Stupidity has more options....and that is why it is genius!

As the saying goes, "Never argue with a stupid person because they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". I say, never argue with an idiot because by the time they're done with you, you become the idiot. 

Ok guys, so never argue with me, because when i'm done with you, we'll both be idiots. How many had to read that again. See, I told you.

[Spiral]

Scientists have not found any signs of intelligent life in the universe.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Spiral said:

Scientists have not found any signs of intelligent life in the universe.

What did they use to determine that. Wasn't it Intelligence?

[Lilia]

I hear your point.

When I hear someone say that the majority of people are dumb, I can't help wondering: How do they know? Have they spoken to everyone, or is it just a generalisation based on the interactions they've had, run against some preferred measurement system?

And is there even a correlation between intelligence and behaviours an organism exhibits?

If so, what behaviours correlate with intelligence? If we posit collaboration, then ants or bees will rank much higher than humans. If the ability to represent qualia with symbols, then we will score higher.

Perhaps, one question is: Why do we think that some behaviours indicate intelligence more than others? 

Success at survival requires intelligence, and people with phones in the place of hands are probably very good at it.

[Lilia]

Extra thoughts:

Speaking of relative intelligence, I don't think there's a 100% way of telling how intelligent anyone really is without:

a) introducing some criteria;

b) going into another's perspective (aka channelling them);

c) conceptualizing their perspective

and finally,

d) comparing it with your own using the introduced criteria.

 

Other than that, I would rely on intuition, while remaining aware of the conceptual nature of the entire endeavour.

 

There could always be a fun twist revealing a conscious purpose behind someone's apparently 'dumb' behaviour. 

Also, someone who sounds intelligent may be a 'ChatGPT person' - knowledgeable when they speak, but actually regurgitating what they learnt from others. 

 

Relative intelligence may also be proportional to the degree of Infinite Intelligence embodied.

 

[Princess Arabia]

9 hours ago, Lilia said:

Extra thoughts:

Speaking of relative intelligence, I don't think there's a 100% way of telling how intelligent anyone really is without:

a) introducing some criteria;

b) going into another's perspective (aka channelling them);

c) conceptualizing their perspective

and finally,

d) comparing it with your own using the introduced criteria.

 

Other than that, I would rely on intuition, while remaining aware of the conceptual nature of the entire endeavour.

 

There could always be a fun twist revealing a conscious purpose behind someone's apparently 'dumb' behaviour. 

Also, someone who sounds intelligent may be a 'ChatGPT person' - knowledgeable when they speak, but actually regurgitating what they learnt from others. 

 

Relative intelligence may also be proportional to the degree of Infinite Intelligence embodied.

 

Interesting points.

21 hours ago, Spiral said:

 

 

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia

Yes and/or No

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, Understander said:

@Princess Arabia

Yes andor No

Are you the yes or the no.

 

[hyruga]

 In the relative realm, everyone has been stupid at least once. 

Like she use her fingers to touch metallic part of the hot kettle or he smokes despite knowing the dangers of smoking.

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia Depends on the situation.

Imagine something that you don't know and have been acting in a way that makes you think you know about it.

Also, there are things that are beyond our capabilities to know, so we are automatically being dumb about them. But we don't, couldn't, or shouldn't care about it.

[Razard86]

On 10/29/2023 at 5:32 AM, Lilia said:

Extra thoughts:

Speaking of relative intelligence, I don't think there's a 100% way of telling how intelligent anyone really is without:

a) introducing some criteria;

b) going into another's perspective (aka channelling them);

c) conceptualizing their perspective

and finally,

d) comparing it with your own using the introduced criteria.

 

Other than that, I would rely on intuition, while remaining aware of the conceptual nature of the entire endeavour.

 

There could always be a fun twist revealing a conscious purpose behind someone's apparently 'dumb' behaviour. 

Also, someone who sounds intelligent may be a 'ChatGPT person' - knowledgeable when they speak, but actually regurgitating what they learnt from others. 

 

Relative intelligence may also be proportional to the degree of Infinite Intelligence embodied.

 

Measuring intelligence is easy actually, because you can always create some criteria for it, but getting exact perfect measurements for intelligence is hard because it is infinite in its scope and magnitude. 

For example we can easily say majority of humanity is not intelligent because humanity cares more about their individual survival than they do their collective survival. What they don't want to admit is focusing on collective survival is actually more important. We know this because CANCER CELLS care more about individual survival over collective survival. Why is this the case? Because cancer cells are NOT AWARE that they are part of a larger body. Your non cancer cells are all self-sacrificial. If they weren't your body could not survive collectively.

Humans act like cancers cells within a body called EARTH. We know very well our actions are destroying the planet....and we don't care. Why? Because we are selfish. That is how we can track the general intelligence of all of humanity....how aware they are that their own actions are contradicting what they desire. Humanity desires to survive and live a healthy life, but majority of their actions conflict with that on a massive scale. Now on a small scale they engage in actions towards this goal, but the more you zoom out the more destructive they get.

So how intelligent someone is, is based on how much they are geared toward the empowerment of not just their life but all life. How do we know this? Because all life seeks to express itself to the highest degree it can. Since this is the ultimate goal of all life, the more intelligent you are is based on how well you are in alignment with this, and how much you deviate from this.

^^^^This is Self-Clarity, Self-Love, Self-Intelligence.

[Applegarden8]

Yes, I am really stupid, confirmed.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Applegarden8

[jdc7733]

I would say like literally everyone is acting from the most unreasonable, most ridiculous logic ever hahaha. I’ve suddenly had the best epiphany ever which is that life has absolutely no intelligence whatsoever. If you could see the entirety of life you would have to laugh, that’s the only reasonable reaction I can think of, but, not just any laugh - the most laughable laughing fit EVER!

[Razard86]

12 minutes ago, jdc7733 said:

I would say like literally everyone is acting from the most unreasonable, most ridiculous logic ever hahaha. I’ve suddenly had the best epiphany ever which is that life has absolutely no intelligence whatsoever. If you could see the entirety of life you would have to laugh, that’s the only reasonable reaction I can think of, but, not just any laugh - the most laughable laughing fit EVER!

It's more intelligent than you think